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Offline gashmo

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« on: November 25, 2004, 04:30:27 AM »
ok it is hard to define just what is a true rts so some people may want to include Medieval Total War (or Rome or Shogun) or even other games like Sacrifice or Black and White. Well i think rts in strict terms is sc or ta.

TA imho is the No.1 rts of all time cos no other rts creates as much simultaneous screaan shaking explosiong and battle. Also TA has the most units in battle at any one time (perhaps cossacks has more but cossakcs doesnt have aircraft). TA is also the only rts with proper aircraft flight in strafing/bombing runs (sc aircraft are lame). TA AI is also the hardest of all rtses (custom content ai is truly awesome). TA strategy is very specialised and takes a lot of thinking.

I'm not sure why so many people like sc but i think its just because blizzard markets it a lto and also sc has very good strategy for an rts.

However, I wud have to point out that wb3, battle realms and tzar have increidble strategy capabilities too if people played them more. battle realms is really really good - it is the only rts with vaguely anime feel except maybe for wc3 but wc3 is kinda lame because the graphics are a bit old and its a rehash of wc2. However, I did hear wc3 had really good strategic balances and fun too.

1 rts i have not played is warhammer 40k and i heard this may be better than ta.

which ones do you guys like and why?

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2004, 05:21:36 PM »
rts?

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 06:44:56 PM »
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Real Time Strategy

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Generals for me

but WC3 is very close behind

and Spellforce : order of Dawn is a good game as well - it has RPG elements.

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starcraft multiplayer is the daddy though :)

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2004, 07:45:19 PM »
I like WC3 because of DOTA. Got to have my DOTA.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2004, 06:13:51 AM »
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I like WC3 because of DOTA. Got to have my DOTA.
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ok these acronyms are starting to annoy FYI :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 01:58:54 AM »
Defence of the ancients is a hero on hero battle. There are two sides and you pick from a set of heroes and try to destroy the other teams base. Both teams also have a set of creeps. Its really fun try it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2004, 03:18:49 AM »
Since the only one on the list that i have actually played is starcraft its going to be hard to discuss the other rts games  <_<

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2004, 04:41:06 PM »
Warlords Battlecry 3 is also a really good rts.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 03:41:06 PM »
Have to say WC3 since I also love DOTAs =D

Tho I have to say that if you wait for like this long - , yea that long, then I have you know that Middle Earth is soon out and it's outmatched any other rts I've ever seen. There have been 1 trailer about the game every month for 7 months and they show how great this game really is. It is tho not very traditional since you don't get an interface (the bottom of the screen isn't a panel where you choose buildings and such). This is all new thinking.

I think that Middle Earth, that's something you should look into.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 05:59:12 PM »
Total Annihilation is by far the best RTS game ever made...WC3 while i well made game doesn't come close.  TA had the best units best buildings ...best everything.  Too bad they never made a proper sequal to it...Kingdoms was no good.  Age of Empires 2 was very fun as well...

CnC Generals is fun ...Red Alert was better.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2004, 03:34:11 AM »
many do say TA is the best rts ever - however some point out that TA in its basic (non-customised AI or units versions) heavily favours a defensive base strategy. That meansm a game can go on indefinitely eg: 4 days straight playing or more with nukes and assaults raining down on your base and you can still struglle on and survive. If you build your base right.TA is truly the most earth shaking rts out ever.

But then if you look at the customised AI or unit packs (UTCP or TAUIP or others - acronyms are about correct), you realise that they fixed the defence-offence balance. They also introduced megamech units - so u get mech uunits which are truly enormous and powerful... and 10,000 units in  asingle game at once is not unprecedented....

Ok now you look at SC. Many SC fans say SC has better strategic elements. WC3 is not really as good as SC...

So its kinda between SC and TA - with Warhammer 40k DoW looking to shine soon I hope.
WLBC3 - i think the whole wlbc series is truly excellent and should be regarded better. - maybe one day soon they wiill.

Did I mention one of my favourtie rts/hybrids was also Magic & mayhem (1 or 2 i think is reallye xcellent)?

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2004, 05:57:30 AM »
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Total Annihilation is by far the best RTS game ever made...WC3 while i well made game doesn't come close.  TA had the best units best buildings ...best everything.  Too bad they never made a proper sequal to it...Kingdoms was no good.  Age of Empires 2 was very fun as well...

CnC Generals is fun ...Red Alert was better.
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well i think that in terms of playability generals wins, but red alert had the great FMV in between missions, generals really dropped the ball on that one..

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2004, 12:33:45 PM »
You forgot Tiberian sun............You shall burn!!!
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2004, 06:15:39 AM »
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You forgot Tiberian sun............You shall burn!!!
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hmm, yes, good point - only two problems with that;

one : Tiberian Sun Sucks

and

Two : Tiberian Sun Sucks

now i realise that may only be one problem, but i thought that it was such a big one that it was worth saying twice :P