Listen, DE is still in all hands off of anyone until Shade decides to dissown it, and if Zen pops in to take it, I will reclaim it, but now there is no point in staying in, even for the memory of it. If you guys must know, niether Shade nor myself knew quite why we stayed in it so long; Shade only went to DE from Doriath because Nathan asked her to join, and she hates Nathan now. Frankly, I'm not too pleased with the leader who recruited me right now either.
And Nem, so you know, both Shade and I view your abandonment of DE to join the Marauders as a betrayal to the clan you brought to glory. As for Hell, I don't think he betrayed them since they are just a group of noobs...mostly. I'd prefer to think of his situation as "upgrading" to the Marauders.
-Elessar