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Offline gashmo

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« on: November 09, 2004, 04:26:53 AM »
Did anyone ever figure out what the dc for SoV stun is? Because it never shows up in combat logs.
Since SoV stacksm speed casting it of course gets more stuns but I am wondering if the dc is itself very high.....

other spells that dont show their dc in logs :-
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2004, 07:20:43 AM »
I am not sure, but i think only spell resistance can make a saving throw against it...im guessing that otherwise its just unlucky if u are stuned or not.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2004, 07:53:00 AM »
in description says that failed reflex saves give stun to enemy if u save only dmg

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2004, 01:09:23 PM »
increasing your wis and getting spell focuses in whatever spell school it is will increase the stun dc for sov.........if it a level 9 spell you can prolly get a max of 45 dc *trys to remember the formula for spell dc's* eerrrrrrrr yea..........umm




i think its   10+ spell level + wis/int/cha mod i donno .......*starts to panick and runs off*
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2004, 02:32:12 PM »
It's a reflex save.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2004, 02:36:06 PM »
48 DC should be possible if you max wisdom and take the 3 spellfocus feats in evocation ( normal, greater, epic)

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2004, 03:03:40 PM »
Let's see, my level 38 cleric has a SoV DC of 39.

9 (spell level) + 20 (mod for 50 wisdom) + 10 = 39

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2004, 03:15:02 PM »
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Let's see, my level 38 cleric has a SoV DC of 39.

9 (spell level) + 20 (mod for 50 wisdom) + 10 = 39

Good one Bus!

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SoV has less DC than implosion then? Or I'm missing something? A lvl 20 cleric can have dc 38 and a 40 can have 48 dc on implosion.

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2004, 03:43:07 PM »
yup 10+spell lvl + wis mod for cleric spell dc. Just one thing that I found kinda odd tho, my cleric had uhm some dc on his storm, a cleric archer with nice wisom, but when I counted up the dc I found that the dc was 2 higher then what it was supposed to be.... maybe a little bug, but not of much importance.

50 is max wisdom I guess (18 (start off with this) + 10 (ability points) + 10 (feats) + 12 (items)

so 9+20+10 = 39, but that means the max dc should be 45 with the three focus feats..... and I know for a fact that 47 is possible and have heard ppl have had 48.

seems impossible if you follow the rules...
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2004, 03:43:15 PM »
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Let's see, my level 38 cleric has a SoV DC of 39.

9 (spell level) + 20 (mod for 50 wisdom) + 10 = 39

Good one Bus!

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SoV has less DC than implosion then? Or I'm missing something? A lvl 20 cleric can have dc 38 and a 40 can have 48 dc on implosion.

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Well, if you take away 3 points of "Great Wsidom" (-2 modifyer) and add the 3 spell focus feats you get:

9 (spell level) + 18 (mod for 47 wis) + 10 (standard mod) + 3 (spell focus) + 4 (greater spell focus + 6 (epic spell focus) = 50 DC

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2004, 03:45:19 PM »
wait, spells focus feats stack?? 2+4+6??
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2004, 03:48:39 PM »
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wait, spells focus feats stack?? 2+4+6??
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To tell the truth, I have no idea. I have never used any of the Spell Focus feats. It is the only way I can see that Mel is getting a 48 DC on Implosion though.

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2004, 03:52:18 PM »
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Did anyone ever figure out what the dc for SoV stun is? Because it never shows up in combat logs.
Since SoV stacksm speed casting it of course gets more stuns but I am wondering if the dc is itself very high.....

other spells that dont show their dc in logs :-
WoF
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Well it's not really a save for stun but for electricity. When you fail that you are stunned(if not mind immunity). So you can see your dc since when lightning strikes your mostly having some stunning too.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2004, 05:48:17 PM »
Max DC (for a spell) is 48.

Implosion is a "special" spell that gives +3 bonus to DC, which makes it 48.

Max DC aside from implosion is 45.

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2004, 05:54:31 PM »
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Max DC (for a spell) is 48.

Implosion is a "special" spell that gives +3 bonus to DC, which makes it 48.

Max DC aside from implosion is 45.
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Out of the implosion spell's code:
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if(!MySavingThrow(SAVING_THROW_FORT, oTarget, GetSpellSaveDC()+3, SAVING_THROW_TYPE_DEATH, OBJECT_SELF, fDelay))
                {
                    //Apply death effect and the VFX impact
                    DelayCommand(fDelay, ApplyEffectToObject(DURATION_TYPE_INSTANT, eDeath, oTarget));
Notice the +3 to the savedc. That's the reazon, like talon said :)

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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2004, 08:31:14 PM »
hehe, I went out to watch Man on Fire, but yeah I wanted to correct what I said tho (yay I got the dc right :P)

I had 19+10+9=38 then the thing was where I got the +3.... weee special spell :P
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I guess I just miss my friend."
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