Author Topic: Safari now Available for Windows (Read 10278 times)

Talon · « **on:** June 14, 2007, 03:43:56 PM »

Safari for windows

My browser of choice is now available on windows - give it a whirl - I think you will be impressed.

Mo · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2007, 04:14:11 PM »

Not so fast. Zero day security bugs exist in Safari.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/12/sa..._security_bugs/
http://larholm.com/2007/06/12/safari-for-w...loit-in-2-hours
http://aviv.raffon.net/2007/06/11/AppleSaf...WithACrash.aspx

Don't let the Apple spin-machine take you for a whirl.
Stick with Firefox =)

Talon · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2007, 05:45:06 PM »

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Not so fast. Zero day security bugs exist in Safari.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/12/sa..._security_bugs/
http://larholm.com/2007/06/12/safari-for-w...loit-in-2-hours
http://aviv.raffon.net/2007/06/11/AppleSaf...WithACrash.aspx

Don't let the Apple spin-machine take you for a whirl.
Stick with Firefox =)
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Pfft!
Well - when they fix the immediate bugs go for it.
It is truly the best browser bar none.

Mo · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2007, 06:56:07 PM »

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Pfft!
Well - when they fix the immediate bugs go for it.
It is truly the best browser bar none.
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What makes it better than Firefox or Opera?

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2007, 07:51:10 PM »

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Performance measured in seconds. Testing conducted by Apple in June 2007 on a 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo-based iMac system running Windows XP Professional SP2, configured with 1GB of RAM and an ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB of VRAM. HTML and JavaScript benchmarks based on VeriTestÃƒÂ¢??s iBench Version 5.0 using default settings. Testing conducted with a beta version of Safari; all other browsers were shipping versions. Performance will vary based on system configuration, network connection, and other factors.

In other words, they're full of shit.

Mo · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2007, 07:55:46 PM »

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In other words, they're full of shit.
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I didn't see any results from that quote.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #6 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:03:08 PM »

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I didn't see any results from that quote.
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Click his link, it's taken from that page.

Talon · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:16:51 PM »

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What makes it better than Firefox or Opera?
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From my personal experience of Safari (which is based on konqueror), I find it a lot faster, more intuitive, and with a better and more accurate rendering engine than either Firefox or Opera.

When it comes to day-to-day browsing, it uses less system memory than firefox meaning I can do a lot more, a lot faster without page-swapping.

When it comes to development of webapps, I build for safari off the base, as its less quirky rendering means that my layout is accurate to web guidelines - I then just add the css quirks for other browsers afterwards.

I wouldnt be put off by these security issues in the long term - it was only 1.5 months ago that Firefox had similar issues. Speaking of which, make sure you have updated your firefox recently.

Just give it a whirl when it is released as stable, and see for yourself

Talon · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:19:57 PM »

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In other words, they're full of shit.
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How does that make them full of shit - sounds like your average specced modern machine to me....
Maybe you are just an apple-hater (read: idiot)?

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:21:12 PM »

I probably will, for one. Seeing as I notice how FF and IE run, and might consider seizing another browser if it's worth it's salt.

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How does that make them full of shit - sounds like your average specced modern machine to me....
Maybe you are just an apple-hater (read: idiot)?

Compatibility varies, and they said it themselves. So all in all, it depends on the machine you use as to whether it will work with one browser better than another. Then they had the fancy chart deal that helps attract users. Ohh ohh! When you see that on enough websites, the same idea put to use, the "wow" effect wears off.

Mo · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2007, 08:45:30 PM »

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From my personal experience of Safari (which is based on konqueror), I find it a lot faster, more intuitive, and with a better and more accurate rendering engine than either Firefox or Opera.

When it comes to day-to-day browsing, it uses less system memory than firefox meaning I can do a lot more, a lot faster without page-swapping.

When it comes to development of webapps, I build for safari off the base, as its less quirky rendering means that my layout is accurate to web guidelines - I then just add the css quirks for other browsers afterwards.

I wouldnt be put off by these security issues in the long term - it was only 1.5 months ago that Firefox had similar issues. Speaking of which, make sure you have updated your firefox recently.

Just give it a whirl when it is released as stable, and see for yourself
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I downloaded Safari 3 days ago when it was first released. It's definitely beta software as I noticed oddities right off the bat. Some iGoogle gadgets didn't work well in it, plus some tables didn't have text displayed quite right. As for being more memory efficient than FF, I wouldn't be surprised as FF is a monster memory hog. I just buy more cpu cores and more RAM

. Its interface is a little cleaner.

I'm just put off by Apple's holier than thou attitude. Their Safari web page clearly states "World's Best Browser". I for one would like to see testimony and numbers to back up such a bold claim. But Apple is known to be believe that their point of view is the way things really are. That's just immoral marketing if you ask me. I'll never bash OS X as I think it's a great OS, I just don't like their attitude. Most Mac users I know use Firefox and not Safari.

I don't particularly like Konqueror either. I'm not a KDE fan. I like Gnome better for some reason.

@HeLL
Maybe I'm tired but I don't see a link anywhere.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:09:18 PM »

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@HeLL
Maybe I'm tired but I don't see a link anywhere.
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You should really bitch out your mother for dropping you on your head.

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Safari for windows

My browser of choice is now available on windows - give it a whirl - I think you will be impressed.
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Xen · « **Reply #12 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:19:55 PM »

Well, if Sir Talon recommends it i'll give it a go.

EDIT: Well im editing this post using Safari. I must say I am somewhat impressed, even being a beta it is much faster. And pages are far more smooth and silky. I am on 1280x1024.

Cheers for the link Matt.

Talon · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2007, 01:17:09 PM »

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Well, if Sir Talon recommends it i'll give it a go.

EDIT: Well im editing this post using Safari. I must say I am somewhat impressed, even being a beta it is much faster. And pages are far more smooth and silky. I am on 1280x1024.

Cheers for the link Matt.
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As Mo mentioned, there are known vulnerabilities at the moment that could put your PC at risk.
I wouldnt recommend using it until these bugs are fixed. Having said that, its still probably safer than IE!

Meclar · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2007, 01:17:16 PM »

Geesh and I just installed Firefox...
My girlfriend recently got an iMac and I am very impressed with it. Using Macs have always been a bit disorienting but only because I'm not use to them so I've never been out right disappointed.
I'll download the full version when it's released. I forget about these things so post a reminder : D

Xen · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2007, 02:58:14 PM »

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As Mo mentioned, there are known vulnerabilities at the moment that could put your PC at risk.
I wouldnt recommend using it until these bugs are fixed. Having said that, its still probably safer than IE!
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I run a custom install of windows of my own design. I havent had any problems with IE or Fire Fox.
All that interests me is speed and Safari is definatly faster. Good enough for me.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2007, 10:03:25 PM »

Tell those cunts to hurry up and fix the main bug issues.

Talon · « **Reply #17 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:51:21 AM »

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Tell those cunts to hurry up and fix the main bug issues.
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Been fixed for a while - still beta though

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #18 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:30:58 PM »

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Been fixed for a while - still beta though
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How long is awhile? We just had the discussion about them not being fixed only a week ago.

Well, we'll see what happens. I want to try it, but not just yet.

Talon · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2007, 02:01:20 AM »

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How long is awhile? We just had the discussion about them not being fixed only a week ago.

Well, we'll see what happens. I want to try it, but not just yet.
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I think it had actually been fixed before we posted about it.
Just wait until its officially released to be sure it works fine.

Mo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2007, 01:11:31 PM »

Mercy · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2007, 03:19:52 PM »

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2007, 07:03:38 PM »

Firefox ftw!

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Author Topic: Safari now Available for Windows (Read 10278 times)