Author Topic: Finally that settles that! (Read 12729 times)

Mo · « **on:** May 27, 2006, 02:50:10 AM »

Well I just got home and was in a pretty bummed mood, but now I've read this and the World finally makes sense!

Talon · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2006, 03:41:43 AM »

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Well I just got home and was in a pretty bummed mood, but now I've read this and the World finally makes sense!
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I studied molecular genetics in university, and this was one of my key arguments in the debate.
However, there are so many flaws, it still isnt a viable justification. Ergo, they are wrong.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #2 on:** May 27, 2006, 07:16:40 AM »

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I studied molecular genetics in university, and this was one of my key arguments in the debate.
However, there are so many flaws, it still isnt a viable justification. Ergo, they are wrong.
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I like those kind of things biology, genetics and stuff but in the end my intrests for pc engineering won, So i went for informatics instead of those

P.S. I always tought the egg came first....

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #3 on:** May 27, 2006, 08:51:07 AM »

lol! They are coming to a unified oppinion now? I figured this one out AGES ago while starting the fire in our grill. The egg obviously came first because dinosaurs laid eggs before birds even existed! So thus eggs obviously came before chickens, which are birds.

-Elessar

BzK · « **Reply #4 on:** May 27, 2006, 09:09:26 AM »

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lol! They are coming to a unified oppinion now? I figured this one out AGES ago while starting the fire in our grill. The egg obviously came first because dinosaurs laid eggs before birds even existed! So thus eggs obviously came before chickens, which are birds.
-Elessar
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nothing to do with what can lay eggs.

"Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg."

Talon · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2006, 01:23:00 PM »

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nothing to do with what can lay eggs.

"Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg."
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this assumes that embryos were first in eggs, as opposed to being a part of the parent which becomes detached.
Simple bacteria exhibit this detachment process, as opposed to egg laying. Assuming all life stems from this primordial cell replication, it would be fair to say the chicken came first.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2006, 02:55:31 PM »

What came first the chicken or the egg? Evolution, that's how they got there in the first place. Unless you're all religious or something and would rather think it was a god. Then be my guest.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2006, 03:45:16 PM »

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nothing to do with what can lay eggs.
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Oh yes there is. The question is "Which came first: the chicken or the egg?" It never says that it has to be a chicken egg in the situation, now if you want to be picky and say that the question is "Which came first: the chicken or the chicken's egg?" Then be my guest, but I'm not gunna care for it!

-Elessar

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:18:24 PM »

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Oh yes there is. The question is "Which came first: the chicken or the egg?" It never says that it has to be a chicken egg in the situation, now if you want to be picky and say that the question is "Which came first: the chicken or the chicken's egg?" Then be my guest, but I'm not gunna care for it!
-Elessar
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Ever hear of the word imply?

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:49:58 PM »

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Ever hear of the word imply?
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this is science! we imply nothing!

-Elessar

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:04:56 PM »

No this is common sense, we imply that you will use your head.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:07:11 PM »

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No this is common sense, we imply that you will use your head.
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yes, and common sense says that whether the chicken or the egg came first is a scientific question

and in science, nothing is implied.

-Elessar

Anheg · « **Reply #12 on:** May 29, 2006, 12:23:03 AM »

In the words of Xen:

balls

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #13 on:** May 29, 2006, 01:34:47 AM »

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yes, and common sense says that whether the chicken or the egg came first is a scientific question and in science, nothing is implied.
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By common sense I meant that it should be common sense that it would be implied. I highly doubt it's start as a scientific question, for we all know what is meant by it, and if it was, then as you say it would not be implied and therefore would have been specified to begin with, and the question as it is, would not be as it is, but would in fact be a different question.

So you imply that in science nothing is implied?

Don't confuse yourself now.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #14 on:** May 29, 2006, 10:23:26 AM »

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So you imply that in science nothing is implied?

Don't confuse yourself now.
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no, i specifically stated that nothing is implied in science!
see, look before you leap, hell

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this is science! we imply nothing!
-Elessar
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-Elessar

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #15 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:06:39 PM »

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no, i specifically stated that nothing is implied in science!
see, look before you leap, hell
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Yeah but you're implying that.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #16 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:26:49 PM »

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Yeah but you're implying that.
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there is a difference between stating something and implying something. i stated it.

-Elessar

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #17 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:30:14 PM »

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there is a difference between stating something and implying something. i stated it.
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After implying it of course.

420 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 30, 2006, 01:25:58 PM »

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Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.

Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.

Assuming that the egg of the first chicken counts (despite Talon's genetics lesson) then of course it's the egg. Only religious fundamentalists are still confused by this issue.

Of course I answered all philosophical questions for myself a long time ago:

What's the sound of one hand clapping? *Claps the fingers of one hand against palm.*

Does a dog have Buddha nature? Yes, next.

If a tree fell... YES, next.

What came first the... EGG, NEXT!

See how easy that is?

-420

Anheg · « **Reply #19 on:** June 02, 2006, 07:20:18 PM »

Buddah nature?

Talon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2006, 09:55:19 AM »

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Assuming that the egg of the first chicken counts (despite Talon's genetics lesson) then of course it's the egg. Only religious fundamentalists are still confused by this issue.

Of course I answered all philosophical questions for myself a long time ago:

What's the sound of one hand clapping? *Claps the fingers of one hand against palm.*

Does a dog have Buddha nature? Yes, next.

If a tree fell... YES, next.

What came first the... EGG, NEXT!

See how easy that is?

-420
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This reminds me of This

Anheg · « **Reply #21 on:** June 03, 2006, 10:39:12 PM »

That has to be the single greatest thing iv seen on the internet in the last year.

Talon · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2006, 08:48:38 PM »

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That has to be the single greatest thing iv seen on the internet in the last year.
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And that would be why it is the only external link I have ever posted.

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Author Topic: Finally that settles that! (Read 12729 times)