Author Topic: What's your idea of a cheap build? (Read 25750 times)

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #30 on:** February 06, 2005, 01:05:27 PM »

Well what I meant was vs. a melee build, in which case it's likely you wont have a dispell, especially in lvl 20 builds.

Blood Angel · « **Reply #31 on:** February 06, 2005, 02:27:56 PM »

you have to think about the majority of the ppl.

Morticia · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2005, 11:06:59 AM »

i have 8 dispels hell. (lesser)
btw lesser diespel isnt that difficult to get . take cleric or for those who get ts get a few levels higher sorc and voila!!
Ow, but those levels sorc are useless then not? Well i dont think its up to the oponent to adapt at ur chaarcter. he has taken many levels to get wof too.
ts at level 1 sorc! thats cheap!!

Tea-cup · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2005, 12:23:17 PM »

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If you're 20 and don't have hotu or sou, yep it's if your oppent use it

-Mel

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2005, 05:48:31 PM »

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That'd be me. =)
But I'm a monk, and TS normally does'nt help my opponents against me unless they're a monk. (I don't duel monks. =P Also hiders with TS arent a problem for me either).

Morticia · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2005, 10:54:13 AM »

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That'd be me. =)
But I'm a monk, and TS normally does'nt help my opponents against me unless they're a monk. (I don't duel monks. =P Also hiders with TS arent a problem for me either).
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where did u heard that?
ts gives +20 ab bonus no matter what. normally monks can get high ac, thats why ts can be less devasting

Illutian · « **Reply #36 on:** February 08, 2005, 11:36:29 AM »

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ED is cheap well its bugged thats why its cheap and thats why dm put a big flag on ppl who take that feat
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i never quite understood why everyone says ED is bugged? is it because u dodge the first successful hit? why is that bugged? i mean if that's true then Elemental, Death Armor, and Acid sheath are bugged cause they only damage on a successful hit

do explain, i am curious to know

BzK · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2005, 11:39:33 AM »

it's supposed to dodge the first attack each round. not the first successful hit.

Illutian · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2005, 11:47:38 AM »

um...but that's stupid, the rolls made to actually hit you cause u to "dodge" most (unless you have crappy ac

) and if it was bugged...don't u think others would complain about it on the Bio-Forums? i've fought ppl with ED (lol...we gotta not use that) and they've still ended up limp...i mean whiped

Morticia · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:43:45 PM »

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it's supposed to dodge the first attack each round. not the first successful hit.
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act it isnt bugged.
ment to dodge first hit. but that would be not vry balancing

BzK · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:52:01 PM »

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act it isnt bugged.
ment to dodge first hit. but that would be not vry balancing
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Says right here in the manual:

Epic Dodge
The character avoids all damage from the first attack each round.

Illutian · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2005, 12:56:16 PM »

and remember these feats weren't made for pvp-only servers, but to fight monsters

Morticia · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2005, 02:37:06 PM »

well a good source told me it isnt bugged but ment that way

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2005, 06:27:56 PM »

Ya, same here, ED is'nt bugged. Also about the last thing I said, I did'nt hear that anywhere, I know that because I've experienced it, TS rarely helps my opponents defeat me, hider or not.

Celestial1 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 09, 2005, 02:06:29 PM »

Epic dodge is bugged, and it is simple.

It is supposed to dodge the first attack, successful or not, of the round. It's supposed to only give you the advantage of passing the first attack incase they would hit you without it.

~Celestial

Morticia · « **Reply #45 on:** February 09, 2005, 02:57:23 PM »

well i cant consult the manual but u consult it
they told me it s supposed to dodge first hit

Celestial1 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2005, 03:02:00 PM »

Well, BioWare may have meant it to do that, but however...

In the description (manual + game) it says first attack of round, successful or not.

It only dodges the first successful, which would be useful in PvM, it is not balanced for PvP.

~Celestial

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2005, 05:37:19 PM »

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Well, BioWare may have meant it to do that, but however...
In the description (manual + game) it says first attack of round, successful or not.

It only dodges the first successful, which would be useful in PvM, it is not balanced for PvP.

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Actually I should'nt really be talking, I just heard from a good source that it was'nt. But, I should'nt say much on it, because I don't even have the expansions, so I don't see the descriptions, or have that manual and so forth. I'm sure it's as simple as calling tech support, or looking for evidence supporting one theory or the other. =P That almost sounded scientific... science rocks!

kanrei · « **Reply #48 on:** February 10, 2005, 10:38:55 PM »

I would say a scythe weapon master wizard with millions of true strikes. So cheap birds speak of them

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #49 on:** February 11, 2005, 01:02:53 AM »

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LOL. Ouch ya, that sounds pretty, cheap to me... "Wam crit" "good fight". A little to overboard there.

Raven · « **Reply #50 on:** February 11, 2005, 06:09:04 AM »

Epic Dodge is not bugged, but it is unbalanced for pvp. It is how Bioware described epic dodge in the manual that is not correct. According to the epic handbook for D&D, epic dodge should allow a person to basically (once per round) dodge the damage from a successful attack. I don't have the handbook to hand but I can quote it later whenever you see me on GodSpire. If you consider all the feats and skills required to get epic dodge: dex 25+, hide 30, tumble 30, improved evasion, defensive roll, dodge etc, and consider what each of these feats allows you to do, then the fact that you can avoid damage is not unrealistic. So for once Bioware actually coded something correctly, they just messed up the description. Whether or not they got it right is irrelevant. Assuming you are not fighting a noob, where even ed can't save them, ed is extremely unbalanced for pvp. It is flagged for this reason.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #51 on:** February 13, 2005, 11:49:45 PM »

I got one; The all famous "Bullet Casting!" I just got rammed with that by a noob erlier... I still won though! =) (I used mantle and horrid)

Blood Angel · « **Reply #52 on:** February 14, 2005, 09:26:51 AM »

you must have been fighting an ultimate noob then.

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #53 on:** February 14, 2005, 05:43:41 PM »

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I was, he barely even knew what he was doing...

Anheg · « **Reply #54 on:** February 16, 2005, 10:20:00 AM »

Nothing is lamer than a build with all 5 levels of harper scout.

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Author Topic: What's your idea of a cheap build? (Read 25750 times)