An RPG by any other name...

[Tyrael]

Really since last month ive played to like over 10 free / Open beta mmorpgs and got bored of almost all in a week or less. thanks theres only like 82 days to go, and if its not released by the same time in spain (which will surely happen) im gettin english version >_<

[Psycho]

What kinda Free Online games did you play:P
Yeah I'm really Gona Buy the Englisch version
But i think There's not even a Dutch one(and i've there was i wouldn't buy that one)

[Tyrael]

What kinda Free Online games did you play:P

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Deceide, Gate to Heavens, SilkRoad Online, Martial arts, Turf Battles, Gunz, Rakion, Flyff(Fly For Fun), The Legend of Ares, Risk Your Life(RYL) part 2, Knights Online, KAL Online, Space Cowboys, Maple Story, and i think thats all
oh and the free Anarchy Online Package (the main game with no expansions)
free till june of 2007 i think

I still have Space Cowboys, RYL and Gunz installed

[Chard!]

Deceide, Gate to Heavens, SilkRoad Online, Martial arts, Turf Battles, Gunz, Rakion, Flyff(Fly For Fun), The Legend of Ares, Risk Your Life(RYL) part 2, Knights Online, KAL Online, Space Cowboys, Maple Story, and i think thats all

I still have Space Cowboys, RYL and Gunz installed

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What would be your favorite, and where can i get it? Ye im bored.  

[Psycho]

Gunz is that a nice online game???
they said that it was a nice game.
 

[Tyrael]

What would be your favorite, and where can i get it? Ye im bored. 

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actually you will find all games i listed just typing the name in google will be 1st or 2nd result surely.

the bests for me now are the ones i still have installed
ryl is the most complete free mmorpg i think
RYL Part II
GunZ
Space Cowboys

And yes Gunz in nice, its a kind of fps rpg in third person where you can use either guns, shotguns, rocket launchers... or katanas, dual katanas (kodachis) or daggers.
i dont like guns but i love to fight with katanas

[Soul Sojourner]

actually you will find all games i listed just typing the name in google will be 1st or 2nd result surely.

the bests for me now are the ones i still have installed
ryl is the most complete free mmorpg i think
RYL Part II
GunZ
Space Cowboys

And yes Gunz in nice, its a kind of fps rpg in third person where you can use either guns, shotguns, rocket launchers... or katanas, dual katanas (kodachis) or daggers.
i dont like guns but i love to fight with katanas

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Eh, I wouldn't consider GunZ an RPG at all..

[Tyrael]

well me either but i said an hibrid, you gain xp, lvl up and buy new stuff(new clothes,guns, swords...)

[Soul Sojourner]

RPG means ROLE-PLAYING game, buying stuff and leveling up isn't something that belongs only to RPG's. In GunZ, your character doesn't have any role in any particular plot, has no dialogue interaction with npc's, nor any backdrop, or story to follow.. It's not even a hybrid. lol.

[Tyrael]

Right Mr so and so i said i dont consider it an rpg either but i has rpg elements even if u like it or not... -.-'
and adventure games like scape from monkey island, The longest journey, etc
have role in a particular plot, has dialogue interaction with npc's, backdrop, and a story to follow and its not a rpg, silly
and if u check any review of most games that have xp and lvls it wil say it has rpg elements even if you dont like it Mr perfect

[Soul Sojourner]

Hahahaha, well I thank you for calling me such lovely things. Even out of sarcasm, I laugh. To me, those are elements of games in general, not elements specifically belonging to RPG's, just because RPG's have them. That's like saying an RPG game is a shooting game as well just because one character uses guns in a fight.

Hey hey, this is totally an improper section, but rather than delete our posts, can someone split topic and move our discussion to RR?

[Throbblefoot]

Topic split out from  NWN 2 topic....

-Throbbefoot

[Soul Sojourner]

w00t thanks.

[Soul Sojourner]

Seems he doesn't wish to continue it... pity.

[Psycho]

I think so!!

[Tyrael]

yes cos i know you know that i know i have the reason
cos its not only your opinion what it counts you know.

In GunZ, your character doesn't have any role in any particular plot, has no dialogue interaction with npc's, nor any backdrop, or story to follow..

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and adventure games like scape from monkey island, The longest journey, etc
have role in a particular plot, has dialogue interaction with npc's, backdrop, and a story to follow and its not a rpg, silly
and if u check any review of most games that have xp and lvls it wil say it has rpg elements even if you dont like it Mr perfect

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[Soul Sojourner]

Repeating an incorrect point will not help your side of the argument, my response to that was already posted. Try again next time. *click*

[Soliran]

Repeating an incorrect point will not help your side of the argument, my response to that was already posted. Try again next time. *click*

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Yea Gunz aint a Rpg but it sure is fun when u will learn Bf, ss , hs wich means :

Bf= butterfly with ur katana's
Ss.= Slashshot with ur shotgun/ bazooka or pistol ,  
Hs= Halfstep with ur katana's

I would recommend this game cause its great fun  

[Soul Sojourner]

I don't much care for bf, hs, or ss, or k-style at all for that matter. Not only is it a bit awkward, but the style itself wears people down quickly and is physically demanding. I am a hybrid, I definately prefer E-style. Tactics and combat situations, like sniping and knowing what to use when are where I specialize. K-stylers just do the same thing everywhere. I always throw them off guard in small places, they never expect someone like me to whip out his sword in such situations.

[420]

From www.gunzonline.com:

The developers continue to expand the world of GunZ every day. As an action game with a touch of a role playing game, GunZ will continue to introduce more diverse and interesting role-playing elements rather than simply offering more level-up oppotunities for the players.

[Tyrael]

Owned - enough said...
What you gonna say now Hell?

[Psycho]

they have proof this time

[Tyrael]

i already had read that months ago just was lazy to go to the webpage and look for it again, seems 420 wanted to conclude the argue and looked for it  

[Psycho]

Hahahaha but your right after all
or you just knew they would place it  

[Soul Sojourner]

Same thing, seeing as the international version we play, lacks that touch of roleplaying. Why? Because they have not yet fully implemented the RPG part of the game, which happens to be the quest part, so, the GunZ we play, is completely action. The Japanese version has RPG in it, the Maiet team doesn't even have international version trailers for the international version. So... uhh... yeah, I still say the same thing. If you WERE talking about a specific version, then I apologize, because I was specifically talking about the international version. Which still lacks those RPG elements.

[Tyrael]

Stop saying excuses hell i was talking about rpg ELEMENTS, not a rpg itself cos even the japanese version its not an rpg either ( has rpg ELEMENTS ) cos i played it, the quests suck, you just get in one of the same duel maps and get surrounded by like 20 green goblins that own you in a few hits and the quest its just kill a determinate number.

I never said it was an rpg, i said it has rpg elements which is whole diferent, your the one that confused yourself saying its not an rpg.

and note that 420's quote is from maiet cos the other page took me a while to find and its in whole japanese (had a guy helping me to dl and register in japanese version) and it says "will continue to introduce MORE rpg ELEMENTS", clear now?

[Psycho]

Hahaha    
finally there done with there discussion
So who was right

[Soul Sojourner]

Stop saying excuses hell i was talking about rpg ELEMENTS, not a rpg itself cos even the japanese version its not an rpg either ( has rpg ELEMENTS ) cos i played it, the quests suck, you just get in one of the same duel maps and get surrounded by like 20 green goblins that own you in a few hits and the quest its just kill a determinate number.

I never said it was an rpg, i said it has rpg elements which is whole diferent, your the one that confused yourself saying its not an rpg.

and note that 420's quote is from maiet cos the other page took me a while to find and its in whole japanese (had a guy helping me to dl and register in japanese version) and it says "will continue to introduce MORE rpg ELEMENTS", clear now?

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No, seeing as I never said that you said it was an RPG. I completely understood that you stated there things from RPG's in it. And as I said, about five times, I disagree.

The current version of GunZ completely lacks the RPG elements. They are there, but not yet implemented. "will continue to produce more rpg elements" Precisely. They will be actually enabling the current ones and adding new ones, I will await that day. I did quest mode too, though it is not something you can normally activate, that IS an RPG element, but it is not yet accessable by normal means, making the game clearly lack that RPG element. And the ones that have not been added yet, are just that, not added.

You make this sound as if it supposed to be an argument, it is not, it is a discussion with two people disagreeing on a subject, please don't treat it as an argument.

No we are not finished yet, nobody is "right" this is a discussion.

[Psycho]

So i see  

[Tyrael]

your the only one in the disscusion cos i know im right. and the game page states it.
you just say it doesnt have rpg elements based on YOUR opinion, the game does have them, lvling up, buying things, changing costumes/weapons in inventory are rpg elements even that if in YOUR opinion theyre not.