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What you hate about mages
Maxou:
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Not exactly, were talking about the lack of (nearly) pure mages on gs these days. And also those new kind of mages having high hp/ac/ab (and hide somethimes) whit only 26 or lower sorc/wiz levels.
Just, the old mage duels have something special too. Also I not really have problems whit Mo's oppinions about taking ice resist. Just his reaction on other poeple playstyles did bother me. But I don't want to start this again.
Poeple should try those high mage builds a bit more, they can be fun to duel whit. I'm crappy at making them because I want at least 84 ac while having enough spellslots/hp to duel someone whit only spellslots and hp. And I don't want a helm on top of it. On other builds I always can do it whit 1 item less than the others. But that kind of mage can't be done like that.
I know I make it hard (impossible) for myself :P
-Mel
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I think ( it's just an idea I never tested ) that you can build that kind of mage making 2 gear ( 1 for mage , 1 for fighters ) . Taking like auto still spell 3 , hell ball , epic mage armor , 2/3 epic cold resist , and the other feat on con or hp . Being 37 wizard 3 bard could ( I dunno I never tested ) be great . 3 bard to get silence + thumble . I dunno if you can afford not to take helm though .
I built a 38 sorc 1 pal 1 monk pure mage vs mage dueler . It's really easier to duel pure mage vs mage dueler with that kind of char . And mage that can to be all round with less than 30 lvl of mage are really , really , really easier to kill . I'll duel those with my all round try sorc .
Blood Angel:
ok here's the thing, 108 dmg on an ice storm means this is not a low lvl mage and a FoD would inflict a lot of dmg too, so in that case, yes a FoD is better if someone is using ice resist.
^ to the above post I think you need to consider that those 3 bard lvls don't count for very much at all other then feats and skills. Silencing would mean you can't cast and with no silence feats your a goner. If you meant auto silent feats instead of still then I understand.
Maxou:
--- Quote ---ok here's the thing, 108 dmg on an ice storm means this is not a low lvl mage and a FoD would inflict a lot of dmg too, so in that case, yes a FoD is better if someone is using ice resist.
^ to the above post I think you need to consider that those 3 bard lvls don't count for very much at all other then feats and skills. Silencing would mean you can't cast and with no silence feats your a goner. If you meant auto silent feats instead of still then I understand.
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Mantle + silence ? :P
That work I tested on a 27 sorc 10 PM 3 bard :) Or try that lvl spell making you immune to lvl 2 spells .
Mo:
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--- Quote ---ok here's the thing, 108 dmg on an ice storm means this is not a low lvl mage and a FoD would inflict a lot of dmg too, so in that case, yes a FoD is better if someone is using ice resist.
^ to the above post I think you need to consider that those 3 bard lvls don't count for very much at all other then feats and skills. Silencing would mean you can't cast and with no silence feats your a goner. If you meant auto silent feats instead of still then I understand.
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Mantle + silence ? :P
That work I tested on a 27 sorc 10 PM 3 bard :) Or try that lvl spell making you immune to lvl 2 spells .
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Old tactic. Useless against anyone with silent spells. And most should have it.
Tea-cup:
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--- Quote ---but we were talking about real mages with high lvls >.<[snapback]13007[/snapback]
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Not exactly, were talking about the lack of (nearly) pure mages on gs these days. And also those new kind of mages having high hp/ac/ab (and hide somethimes) whit only 26 or lower sorc/wiz levels.
Just, the old mage duels have something special too. Also I not really have problems whit Mo's oppinions about taking ice resist. Just his reaction on other poeple playstyles did bother me. But I don't want to start this again.
Poeple should try those high mage builds a bit more, they can be fun to duel whit. I'm crappy at making them because I want at least 84 ac while having enough spellslots/hp to duel someone whit only spellslots and hp. And I don't want a helm on top of it. On other builds I always can do it whit 1 item less than the others. But that kind of mage can't be done like that.
I know I make it hard (impossible) for myself :P
-Mel
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I think ( it's just an idea I never tested ) that you can build that kind of mage making 2 gear ( 1 for mage , 1 for fighters ) . Taking like auto still spell 3 , hell ball , epic mage armor , 2/3 epic cold resist , and the other feat on con or hp . Being 37 wizard 3 bard could ( I dunno I never tested ) be great . 3 bard to get silence + thumble . I dunno if you can afford not to take helm though .
I built a 38 sorc 1 pal 1 monk pure mage vs mage dueler . It's really easier to duel pure mage vs mage dueler with that kind of char . And mage that can to be all round with less than 30 lvl of mage are really , really , really easier to kill . I'll duel those with my all round try sorc .
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I have builds like you say whit 30 iceresist, some con, epic spells, auto stilled. A full for mage duels made char will still have a few advanges over it.
Also, most mages have a silenced gust of wind ready to use when silenced or they just cast silenced mantles. And that silence won't last long on a low level.
-Mel
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