Legal or not? the game YOU want to play!

[Celestial1]

Ok, heres how this game works:

I state something that is either legal or illegal, and you must decide whether it is legal or not. Give a reason why legal or illegal.

First question!

Is burning a CD for your neighbor, friend or family member legal, or illegal?

[Throbblefoot]

Depends on what's on the CD:
 - Pictures from your birthday party: legal
 - Photoshop: illegal
 - The latest Pink album: illegal (not to mention how awful your taste is!)

-Throbblefooy

[Celestial1]

Good job throbby!

Next!! (Please give others a chance to answer if you have just answered the last, and that goes for everyone.)

Downloading content from the following (note, these are not all one thing, they are mixed legals and illegals.):

1) Nappster
2) Kaaza
3) Walmart.com (music section or whatever)
4) Bearshare
5) Music city
6) Limewire
7) Morpheus

Also as a bonus question, what one of those options was at one point illegal, but is now legal?

[BzK]

Good job throbby!

Next!! (Please give others a chance to answer if you have just answered the last, and that goes for everyone.)

Downloading content from the following (note, these are not all one thing, they are mixed legals and illegals.):

1) Nappster
2) Kaaza
3) Walmart.com (music section or whatever)
4) Bearshare
5) Music city
6) Limewire
7) Morpheus

Also as a bonus question, what one of those options was at one point illegal, but is now legal?

[snapback]6977[/snapback]

Napster is legal
Kazaa is illegal
Walmart.com better be legal. =P

Rest of them I don't really know, but now since Napster is a paid service it's legal.

[Celestial1]

#1, 2, 3 are solved. go go go!

[Celestial1]

btw, google is a nice tool to find these things

[Illutian]

my rule of thumb: if i ain't caught....it's legal
so my answer will always be "Legal", next question plz

[ALuCarD]

my rule of thumb: if i ain't caught....it's legal
so my answer will always be "Legal", next question plz

[snapback]6983[/snapback]

LMAO @Khager!!! thats a nice attitude. i can bet that its your motto too puaha

[Lance Ezekiel]

Also as a bonus question, what one of those options was at one point illegal, but is now legal?

[snapback]6977[/snapback]

Kaaza is NOW legal in the US

[Celestial1]

uhm,

1) ALuCaRD, don't post useless things.
2) khadgar, you LOSE.
3) lance, kazaa is incorrect

[Lance Ezekiel]

uhm,

1) ALuCaRD, don't post useless things.
2) khadgar, you LOSE.
3) lance, kazaa is incorrect

[snapback]6997[/snapback]

i got the kazaa legal thing from there
Click the smilie (ant i clever )

[Celestial1]

i hope you know you can get every known virus on kazaa.

and thats holland, not US.

[BzK]

Just because it's legal to use the program doesn't mean downloading warez is =P

[Illutian]

*wonders if Celest works for the RIAA*hmmmm

[Chichiri]

Good job throbby!

Next!! (Please give others a chance to answer if you have just answered the last, and that goes for everyone.)

Downloading content from the following (note, these are not all one thing, they are mixed legals and illegals.):

1) Nappster
2) Kaaza
3) Walmart.com (music section or whatever)
4) Bearshare
5) Music city
6) Limewire
7) Morpheus

Also as a bonus question, what one of those options was at one point illegal, but is now legal?

[snapback]6977[/snapback]

1) legal but was illegal BONUS QUESTION <--
2) Aperrently legal to use but not legal to download anything (Btw its kazaa not Kaaza
3) Legal
4) Illegal
5) Legal (I dont know)
6) Illegal
7) Illegal

I'm smart! Go me!

[420]

Just to help clear up the issue of CD Cracks, since a lot of people seem confused about whether it's legal or not.

I quote NWN's end-user license agreement (yes I do read them). Pay close attention to what is in the parenthesis.

"Software" shall mean the game, toolkit, and all other software contained on this disc or cartridge, all updates and/or patches thereto, any accompanying documentation, all on-line components, restricted-access NEVERWINTER NIGHTS community websites, and other BioWare or Infogrames game-related services (including all CD-authentication components).

and

You may not decompile, modify, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reproduce the Software.

Hope that clears things up.

[Throbblefoot]

and thats holland, not US.

[snapback]6999[/snapback]

If you read past the first paragraph, you'd read:
"On April 25, 2003, Judge Stephen J. Wilson of the United States District Court for the Central District of California ruled in favor of Streamcast Networks, Inc. and Grokster, Limited, distributors of peer-to-peer software which functions similarly to Kazaa, in a summary judgment concluding that such peer-to-peer software and its distribution is legal."

Nevertheless, it's like those semi-automatic --> fully automatic conversion kits: it's legal to own one, it is illegal to use it.

-Throbblefoot

[Chichiri]

No Kazaa is not legal you have to read it very carefully it says "which functions similarly to Kazaa" meaning not kazaa but somthing similar to it. To say that kazaa is legal from the info given there is like saying a toaster is an oven because they both heat things.

[Elessar Telrunya]

Just to help clear up the issue of CD Cracks, since a lot of people seem confused about whether it's legal or not.

I quote NWN's end-user license agreement (yes I do read them). Pay close attention to what is in the parenthesis.

"Software" shall mean the game, toolkit, and all other software contained on this disc or cartridge, all updates and/or patches thereto, any accompanying documentation, all on-line components, restricted-access NEVERWINTER NIGHTS community websites, and other BioWare or Infogrames game-related services (including all CD-authentication components).

and

You may not decompile, modify, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reproduce the Software.

Hope that clears things up.

[snapback]7007[/snapback]

erm umm can you plz put that in plain english im not good with biowares annoying technical mumbo jumbo >.<(nor anyone else's for that matter)


-Lord Elessar

[Celestial1]

NOOO YOU'VE DESTROYED MY BEAUTIFUL GAME!!!

restarting from chichiris actual answer to the question, he's right...

theres no reason on doing a CD crack illegal or not now

hmm... what now...

[420]

erm umm can you plz put that in plain english im not good with biowares annoying technical mumbo jumbo >.<(nor anyone else's for that matter)


-Lord Elessar

[snapback]7051[/snapback]

Basically, it is illegal to modify the CD-authentication, which is what a crack does.

-420

[EL CABAZONO]

Yeah, so they need to arrest the program, not me.

[Elessar Telrunya]

great... guess i'll just have to stop using that crack.... just another one of the billions of things that are painting the skies oh so gray...

[EL CABAZONO]

I think clouds do that.

[Elessar Telrunya]

it was a figure of speech =p

[Chichiri]

I dont know if its illegal where you all live but i use a program called alcohol 120 to make iso of my games so i never need it again and i can never lose it (unless i delete it) and you dont need to crack your game if you dont have the CD (it kicks ass for LAN parties)

[Celestial1]

i'm bored so heres another...

Is burning a CD for yourself legal or illegal?

[420]

i'm bored so heres another...

Is burning a CD for yourself legal or illegal?

[snapback]7112[/snapback]

Technically, if you burn a copywritten CD (ie published by a legally established company) it is for backup purposes only. The actual information on your CD can only be installed on one computer at a time , hence the reason for the CD Key and CD authentication.

I can go into much more detail, but basically the software companies are both covering their asses legally in case some 3rd party software breaks their product AND giving themselves room to bring legal action against the end-user for the even the smallest infractions.

-420

[Celestial1]

well that was fast!

you can burn CDs for yourself, as back-up purposes only!

[420]

well that was fast!

you can burn CDs for yourself, as back-up purposes only!

[snapback]7120[/snapback]

Not only that, but you can put your original game CD in storage and use the copied CD instead. I recommend this as standard practice to everyone since blank CDs and CD burners are so cheap now. There is no reason to ever risk wear and tear on your original programs CDs, just make copies and use them until they get scratched, broken or lost. (hint hint Elessar)

-420