Author Topic: 4th Edition (Read 24554 times)

Mo · « **on:** July 23, 2008, 04:18:07 PM »

I just heard today that 4th Edition was released about a month ago. Looks like an almost complete rewrite again.

Gone are many classes and races. Feats take a backseat to "Powers". Gone are spells as we used to know them as well as multiclassing as we used to know it. Saving throws are different and even alignments were redone.

420 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:35:49 AM »

"4th Edition", much like the rumor about a NWN2 is just a fallacy it doesn't exist.

-420

Mo · « **Reply #2 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:58:10 PM »

lol nooo. There's no use denying it anymore! Submit yourself to 4th Edition!!

420 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 24, 2008, 06:07:51 PM »

4th edition is very different from any of the previous editions. Basically unrecognizable as D&D now.

I've been comparing a 3rd edition adventure with an updated 4th edition version and it's remarkably different. Tons more monsters and fighting and most of the flavor text has been removed to make it a mindless hack and slash.

The Old Kincep Mansion (3rd Edition)

The Haunting of Kincep Mansion (4th Edition)

-420

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:14:20 PM »

Ahah! So I must inform my friend of this new edition then! He likes D&D, but he likes mindless hack and slash much much more.

Whereas my other friend who plays with him, is not as likely to embrace it.

As for me, it's never been good enough unless it was NWN (which obviously isn't pen & paper). For the people in which I would ATTEMPT to play with have always been, and always will be, remedial.

cuchulann · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2008, 03:48:00 AM »

Quote from: HeLLMasteRHeLL on July 24, 2008, 09:14:20 PM

have always been, and always will be, remedial.

To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2008, 07:08:49 PM »

Quote from: cuchulann on July 26, 2008, 03:48:00 AM

To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Remedial? I'm emphasizing their general lack of skill. It's insulting. Using it in this way, I don't specify any need to improve upon any particular thing(s). Instead, I'll simply call anyone that I am insulting remedial, as if to say they need to improve in everything.

However, I realize the context I use it in is not the common usage, but if I didn't explain it you may not understand why I use it this way.

It sure sounds better than using 'retarded' all the time. =D

cuchulann · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2008, 10:15:33 PM »

Quote from: HeLLMasteRHeLL on July 27, 2008, 07:08:49 PM

I realize the context I use it in is not the common usage,

I would not call your usage uncommon. I would call it incorrect. By calling somthing remedial you state that it is a corrective act, as opposed to being in need of one. Much like i could not call my typing skill remedial since it doesn't actually help with anything. More appropriately it is baneful.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2008, 11:02:57 PM »

Quote from: cuchulann on July 28, 2008, 10:15:33 PM

I would not call your usage uncommon. I would call it incorrect. By calling somthing remedial you state that it is a corrective act, as opposed to being in need of one. Much like i could not call my typing skill remedial since it doesn't actually help with anything. More appropriately it is baneful.

Therefore you might need a remedial typing class to correct your appropriately baneful typing skills.

I'm thoroughly enjoying this discussion.

Anheg · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:22:05 AM »

Quote from: Xen

Balls.

Mo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 29, 2008, 09:12:56 AM »

Quote from: cuchulann on July 28, 2008, 10:15:33 PM

I would not call your usage uncommon. I would call it incorrect. By calling somthing remedial you state that it is a corrective act, as opposed to being in need of one. Much like i could not call my typing skill remedial since it doesn't actually help with anything. More appropriately it is baneful.

To avert an argument...Here we go:

Quote from: dictionary.com

reÃ‚Â·meÃ‚Â·diÃ‚Â·al /rɪˈmidiəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-mee-dee-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
Ã¢??adjective
1. affording remedy; tending to remedy something.
2. intended to correct or improve one's skill in a specified field: remedial math.

420 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2008, 01:58:45 PM »

Quote from: Mo on July 29, 2008, 09:12:56 AM

reÃ‚Â·meÃ‚Â·diÃ‚Â·al /rɪˈmidiəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-mee-dee-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
Ã¢??adjective
1. affording remedy; tending to remedy something.
2. intended to correct or improve one's skill in a specified field: remedial math.

So then what HeLL said makes absolutely no sense:

Quote from: HeLLMasteRHeLL on July 24, 2008, 09:14:20 PM

For the people in which I would ATTEMPT to play with have always been, and always will be, remedial.

Well, it doesn't make much sense anyway: "For the people in which I would ATTEMPT to play with"

Seriously, "in which"? Are you saying when you attempt to play with people it's from inside them?

-420

Mo · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2008, 03:09:26 PM »

Quote from: 420 on July 29, 2008, 01:58:45 PM

So then what HeLL said makes absolutely no sense:Well, it doesn't make much sense anyway: "For the people in which I would ATTEMPT to play with"

Seriously, "in which"? Are you saying when you attempt to play with people it's from inside them?

-420

Seems like my attempt to avoid has been in vain...

Yes HeLL's use of the word is wrong, but so are a billion or so other uses of words in English these days. No wonder non-English speakers say that English is the hardest language to learn. Harder than Danish, now that's HARD!

420 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2008, 03:36:39 PM »

Quote from: Mo on July 29, 2008, 03:09:26 PM

Yes HeLL's use of the word is wrong, but so are a billion or so other uses of words in English these days.

HeLL still makes more sense than 4th Edition.

-420

Mo · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:27:18 PM »

Quote from: 420 on July 29, 2008, 03:36:39 PM

HeLL still makes more sense than 4th Edition.

-420

Cheers!

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2008, 10:51:34 AM »

Quote from: Mo on July 29, 2008, 03:09:26 PM

Seems like my attempt to avoid has been in vain...

Yes HeLL's use of the word is wrong, but so are a billion or so other uses of words in English these days. No wonder non-English speakers say that English is the hardest language to learn. Harder than Danish, now that's HARD!

That's because Americans don't speak English - they butcher it.

Anheg · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:59:16 AM »

Quote from: Elessar Telrunya on July 30, 2008, 10:51:34 AM

That's because Americans don't speak English - they butcher it.

Gin is a troll!!!

Where be mah torch!?

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:54:39 PM »

Quote from: 420 on July 29, 2008, 01:58:45 PM

Seriously, "in which"? Are you saying when you attempt to play with people it's from inside them?

How else would I? I played NWN inside of Anheg all the time if I remember correctly. =D

EDIT: Too eager to post that I forgot to finish Bill Gates' reply.

Quote from: Mo on July 29, 2008, 03:09:26 PM

Yes HeLL's use of the word is wrong, but so are a billion or so other uses of words in English these days. No wonder non-English speakers say that English is the hardest language to learn. Harder than Danish, now that's HARD!

Why else would many words have many different meanings?

People like myself invented this language and we continue to expand it to this very day.

Although my usage of the word may be incorrect, I intend to keep using it in this way until it no longer is.

Hello Elessar & Anheg, long time no monk slap. =D

Quote from: 420

HeLL still makes more sense than 4th Edition.

.then must not I eb enOugh drah trying

P.S. 420: Liver.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:02:46 AM »

Quote from: HeLL

.then must not I eb enOugh drah trying

The sad thing is that my head turned that into what it was supposed to be before I realized what you had written....

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2008, 11:30:00 PM »

Quote from: Elessar Telrunya on August 01, 2008, 09:02:46 AM

The sad thing is that my head turned that into what it was supposed to be before I realized what you had written....

That's a very bad sign! You could end up like me! =O

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #20 on:** August 02, 2008, 08:56:15 AM »

That is a very bad sign then! Fortunately, that happens with a lot of things...sometimes I leave letters out or rearrange them and and make a completely different word...took me a while to realize it was 'Prefect' not 'Perfect'....

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #21 on:** August 06, 2008, 12:26:42 PM »

Reminds me of Harry Potter. Is that where you most commonly made that mistake, or was it somewhere else entirely?

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #22 on:** August 06, 2008, 02:14:23 PM »

Yeah, it was the only thing to come to mind right away...

cuchulann · « **Reply #23 on:** August 06, 2008, 10:27:41 PM »

I was thinking it was Hitchhiker's Guide.

Elessar Telrunya · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2008, 11:18:12 PM »

Oh! I thought of another one. *random* I used to think "autopsy" was "auto-spy" for ages. Had no idea what an auto-spy was though... :p

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #25 on:** August 09, 2008, 09:44:39 AM »

Quote from: Elessar Telrunya on August 07, 2008, 11:18:12 PM

Oh! I thought of another one. *random* I used to think "autopsy" was "auto-spy" for ages. Had no idea what an auto-spy was though... :p

Ahahahahaha! Now that shit is funny. =D

Anheg · « **Reply #26 on:** August 09, 2008, 12:29:34 PM »

Quote from: Mo on July 23, 2008, 04:18:07 PM

I just heard today that 4th Edition was released about a month ago. Looks like an almost complete rewrite again.

Gone are many classes and races. Feats take a backseat to "Powers". Gone are spells as we used to know them as well as multiclassing as we used to know it. Saving throws are different and even alignments were redone.

Im going to be playing 4th Edition on thursday

420 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 09, 2008, 12:50:25 PM »

Quote from: Anheg on August 09, 2008, 12:29:34 PM

Im going to be playing 4th Edition on thursday

Let us know how it goes.

-420

Mo · « **Reply #28 on:** August 09, 2008, 02:48:31 PM »

Quote from: Anheg on August 09, 2008, 12:29:34 PM

Im going to be playing 4th Edition on thursday

Who else thinks it may be an interesting idea for some of us to get together over skype or something to play? Can that be done?

Mo · « **Reply #29 on:** August 11, 2008, 02:27:50 PM »

Quote from: Mo on August 09, 2008, 02:48:31 PM

Who else thinks it may be an interesting idea for some of us to get together over skype or something to play? Can that be done?

What no one?? pffft

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Author Topic: 4th Edition (Read 24554 times)