Author Topic: New Computer (Read 32936 times)

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #30 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:06:21 PM »

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Well there are laptops with a nvidia 7900 but i wan't the DX 10 possibility so that's why I wan't a geforce 8600, besides I don't mind gaming on medium detail, most games I play are RPG's and they don't require that much of your system.

And if 420 can run Bioshock on a GF 7900 with max settings why couldn't mine?
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Are you going to be running Vista?

Razor Blade · « **Reply #31 on:** October 13, 2007, 09:36:40 AM »

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Are you going to be running Vista?
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Sadly yes the laptop comes with windows vista on him, why?

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2007, 08:05:08 PM »

Cause if you weren't, then there's no point in worrying about DX 10.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #33 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:13:45 AM »

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Cause if you weren't, then there's no point in worrying about DX 10.
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ah, so direct x 10 will only be available on windows vista?

Tea-cup · « **Reply #34 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:08:29 AM »

Yep, DirectX 10 only works on Vista.

Windows 2000/XP both use the same drivermodel as Windows 95/98/Me. That's why older DirextX versions are "backwards compatible" and for example will work on Windows 98. Windows Vista uses another driver model and DirextX 10 is only developed to run on that driver model.

DirectX 5 and Windows 2000 were made when most gamers used Windows 98, so DirectX 5 was made to run on Windows 98. And for the sake of not reinvinting the wheel, Microsoft used big parts of the Windows 98 driverarchitecture for Windows 2000. The drivermodel used for WIndows 98 was developed for direct acces to the hardware. The Windows NT line didn't allow direct acces for securety reasons, so an extra layer between the driver and the hardware was created as solution in Windows 2000/XP. Something extra means slower speed and more problems. This model with layers can't keep up with the brute force of the new GPU's, so in Vista they changed it.

The following might explain the slower speed too:
Windows 2000/XP:
Direct3D app -> Direct3D runtime(encode) -> (decode)Kernel mode driver(encode) -> (decode)GPU -> screen
Windows Vista:
Direct3D app -> Direct3D runtime(encode) -> Kernel mode driver -> (decode)GPU -> screen

And ofcourse, a second reason and public secret: when DirectX 10 only works on Vista, Vista will sell better. Knowing Microsofts history, it's just normal that they like it this way.

- Mel

Mo · « **Reply #35 on:** October 15, 2007, 09:29:39 AM »

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And ofcourse, a second reason and public secret: when DirectX 10 only works on Vista, Vista will sell better. Knowing Microsofts history, it's just normal that they like it this way.

- Mel
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Actually I think you have that backwards. The public secret is all that mumbojumbo about driver models.

As far as everyone is concerned DX10 is only in Vista for marketing reasons.

Meclar · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:08:12 PM »

Nice FYI Mel.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #37 on:** October 18, 2007, 04:07:44 PM »

oke today i bought my new laptop

it's a ACER Aspire 5920G with intel core 2 duo, 2048mb ram, a GeForce 8600 GT 256mb ram (and i can add more using it from my main ram) 160gig hdd.

it's a pretty good pc unfortunately i can't get internet working on him i mean wtf...? i plug in my network cable and when i click on internet explorer i get the message can't connect to blablabla?

I suspect it's windows vista but dunno....?

Mo · « **Reply #38 on:** October 18, 2007, 04:48:47 PM »

Could be a million reasons.

open a command line and type ipconfig /all

what does it indicate under your local area network connection?

Does your router have dhcp enabled? Is your DNS configured correctly?

Soul Sojourner · « **Reply #39 on:** October 18, 2007, 07:07:40 PM »

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it's a pretty good pc unfortunately i can't get internet working on him i mean wtf...? i plug in my network cable and when i click on internet explorer i get the message can't connect to blablabla?
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Did you just call your computer a him? Razor, I think you're becoming a little too attached to it... just set down the mouse and back away... just back away.

What exactly is the message you're getting? And make sure if you have a firewall on it to check it.

Tyrael · « **Reply #40 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:20:23 PM »

i had that problem and was because it came with all installed so i didnt install anything afterwards, but i had to install a lot of updates with a CD that comes with the laptop, then it worked.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #41 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:30:06 PM »

first of all I don't have any routers i'm the only one in the house with a pc and who uses a pc so the pc is directly connected to the modem.

second of all my laptop doesn't have a firewall (well it had the windows firewall but i disabeled it)

third of all thanks for the advice Tyr i do have a cd with the laptop but didn't used it maybe that'll work...

Mo · « **Reply #42 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:56:54 PM »

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first of all I don't have any routers i'm the only one in the house with a pc and who uses a pc so the pc is directly connected to the modem.

second of all my laptop doesn't have a firewall (well it had the windows firewall but i disabeled it)

third of all thanks for the advice Tyr i do have a cd with the laptop but didn't used it maybe that'll work...
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If you're directly connected to the modem I'd HIGHLY[/u] recommend turning the Windows firewall back ON.

Unless you don't care about network worms and intrusions.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #43 on:** October 19, 2007, 02:26:25 PM »

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If you're directly connected to the modem I'd HIGHLY[/u] recommend turning the Windows firewall back ON.

Unless you don't care about network worms and intrusions.
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lol? the pc isn't connected to the internet...it can't connect...

Mo · « **Reply #44 on:** October 19, 2007, 02:27:40 PM »

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lol? the pc isn't connected to the internet...it can't connect...
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Well when it does connect turn on the firewall.

Mo · « **Reply #45 on:** October 19, 2007, 02:29:07 PM »

Oh by the way. Most modems don't like having new network cards plugged into them. Turn off your modem and computer for 10 mins then turn your modem back on and then turn your computer back on. I bet it will work.

If you have a DSL modem remember to configure the Internet Connection inside Windows.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #46 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:02:50 PM »

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Oh by the way. Most modems don't like having new network cards plugged into them. Turn off your modem and computer for 10 mins then turn your modem back on and then turn your computer back on. I bet it will work.

If you have a DSL modem remember to configure the Internet Connection inside Windows.
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I think you are right, now posting with my laptop internet works from the moment I installed the drivers of my usb network card and used the card....oh well guess i'll use it for now hehe

BTW Hell yeah I called it "him" cuz it's my precious now and i'll shoot anyone who comes close to HIM!

Mo · « **Reply #47 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:13:00 PM »

Did you turn on Firewall?

Razor Blade · « **Reply #48 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »

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Did you turn on Firewall?
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i downloaded ZoneAlard the first thing when internet got on

Mo · « **Reply #49 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:23:00 PM »

Fine. Never used it though.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #50 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:23:45 PM »

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Fine. Never used it though.
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it's pretty good..

Mo · « **Reply #51 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:33:17 PM »

are you on your laptop right now?

Razor Blade · « **Reply #52 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:02:42 PM »

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are you on your laptop right now?
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Yep, got another question tough

I tought let's update the drivers of my geforce and when i download the drivers from the nvidia site and when setup starts it says nvidia could not locate any drivers that are comptabible with your current hardware the setup program will now exit...?

so the drivers i downloaded for the geforce 8 series are not comptabible with my geforce 8600M GT card?

Mo · « **Reply #53 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:07:33 PM »

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Yep, got another question tough

I tought let's update the drivers of my geforce and when i download the drivers from the nvidia site and when setup starts it says nvidia could not locate any drivers that are comptabible with your current hardware the setup program will now exit...?

so the drivers i downloaded for the geforce 8 series are not comptabible with my geforce 8600M GT card?
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Don't see why they shouldn't work. You downloaded for Vista 32-bit?

Razor Blade · « **Reply #54 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:26:01 PM »

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Don't see why they shouldn't work. You downloaded for Vista 32-bit?
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yep doesn't work at all i'm quite suprised myself Bioshock crashes after intro movie dammit wtf lol?

Mo · « **Reply #55 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:28:52 PM »

Maybe you're new computer is allergic to DRM hehe

Uhhhh...maybe you have 64bit Vista? :S

Razor Blade · « **Reply #56 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:33:07 PM »

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Maybe you're new computer is allergic to DRM hehe

Uhhhh...maybe you have 64bit Vista? :S
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nope tried the 64bit

anyway it says "setup could not locate any drivers that are comptabible for your current hardware and will now exit"

Mo · « **Reply #57 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:37:41 PM »

Odd. Maybe there's no Vista drivers for nvidia mobile...I'm unsure.

Are you sure you have that video card??

Razor Blade · « **Reply #58 on:** October 19, 2007, 05:40:38 PM »

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Odd. Maybe there's no Vista drivers for nvidia mobile...I'm unsure.

Are you sure you have that video card??
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offcourse lol i just checked the hardwaremanager and it says
nvidia geforce 8600M GT

i'm kinda getting the feeling i'm installing it in the wrong folder but dunno...? it's c:\NVIDIA....

EDIT ZOMG what I just read almost gave me a heart attack

check this

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nVidia drivers are based on a system called Unified Driver Architecture (UDA) which means all nVidia card drivers are using one driver. However for some reasons, they just remove the support for installing those drivers for some cards, and mostly laptop-based GO cards.

We, the LaptopVideo2Go.com Team, are unlocking those restrictions and also fixing some problems and tweaking the drivers for the best experience with your laptop/desktop and nVidia graphics card.

This means ALL nVidia based graphics cards (TNT2, GeForce and Quadro) can use ANY of the drivers after using our 'modification'.

If you try to install any of these drivers without modification , you will most likely get this error:

"nVidia setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware. Setup will now exit."

This is because of the restrictions of driver itself. To solve this issue and install the driver as it should be for your graphics card, you have to use our 'Modded INF'. Click here if you want to learn more about Modded INFs.

If your graphics card is one of those, you can use our Modded INF to alter installation restrictions:

well I must say they do their job QUITE good I succesfully installed the new drivers on my geforce and run bioshock in fucking full high quality and it looks freaking great lol!

Meclar · « **Reply #59 on:** October 19, 2007, 06:45:35 PM »

I've gone from a cable to modem no problem and then used a router with the modem and again no problem. You may need to setup a Windows network?

Could you take some screen shots of Vista? I'm curious.

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