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« on: January 11, 2005, 12:41:01 PM »
K, since u cant put new toppics up on arivs part i post things here.
Participating  groups:
1.Antedilluvians
2.Brujah
3.Death Can Dance
4.Doriath A
5.Doriath B
6.Doriath C

Ive asked my brother to draw who fights against who and these are the results, i will include here the date and time i expect these groups on the place. I put the time in Dutch time (since the time zones is too complicated for me:p , but i dont think its hard for u to count ur own time from there)

DoriathA-Antedilluvians (saturday 22/01 at 13.00 hours)
Brujah-DoriathC (saturday 22/01 at 14.00 hours)
DcD-DoriathB (saturday 22/01 at 15.00 hours)
*16.00 hours : Batle royal (Since we need 4 winners to go on to the next round ive decided to have a batle royal with the 3 losing groups, winner of it will get his ticket to next round)

Location:
well i will write melisa if it will be possible to run Arivs at that time. If its possible tournament will be held there, if not it will be held at justbehave server. So excact location will follow soon.
I will also ask to make this server PASSWORD PROTECTED. I will send the password to the group leaders  (alkti, Razor, Blood-Angel) so they cann pass it on to the players.
I expect that the 2 battling groups come to the server at time , i will allow a 15min tollerance. make sure u dont come to early either , that will cause unneeded lag for the groups that duel that time. There will be no visitors/watchers present. i will make a team of 3 who will be judge. If a certan groups shows up with only 2/1 person then the question will be asked to the opposite group if they will drop 1/2 players or not. If not, the battle continues with 3vs2 or 3vs1.

restrictions:
1.When all players arive i expect on the head judge (me :P) sign to stop talking and listening for batle restriction, this avoids chaos, mis or not understanding and me repeating everything 2
2.On my signal each team will stand at the edge of the batlefield and make the opposite team hostile
3.When i say go , u can begin the fight (no prebuffing)
4.The battle is won when ur team won 2 rounds (a round is won when opponent team is killed)
5.To make it more tactical: after round 1, the LOSING group, will have the opportunity to get new characters (players remain the same), should they win the next round, the other team has advantage of this opportunnity.

rules:
 :excl: penalty of breaking these is lost of a round :excl:
1.No healing of any kind
2.No hellball
3.hiding is min every 6 seconds
4.When u got killed , u have to go immediatly after respawning to the main entering door in arivs (big door that is always locked there when u enter server)
5.No bitching after a round, it is to the judges to decide wether other team cheated

so i think if said everything, if there are more questions do it here are any more
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 03:16:21 PM »
question is regeneration consedareate as healing and isnt there aniway for participan to watch at least the end of there duel (thats a bit unfair for them=/)

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 04:33:12 PM »
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah man no hellball............... :(  too baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 04:40:26 PM »
alright, fair rules and good good.

questions:
WoF
Resurrection, as in battles on gs

are these spells allowed, I don't mind if not I just need confirmation.
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their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
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But still,
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I guess I just miss my friend."
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2005, 12:26:20 AM »
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alright, fair rules and good good.

questions:
WoF
Resurrection, as in battles on gs

are these spells allowed, I don't mind if not I just need confirmation.
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WoF has a fort save to last 6 seconds on arivs. (normal dc level 7 spell + 1/2 casterlevel) Also I might have things scripted out later. But I won't talk about that until I finished the tvt. I'm too busy right now to worry about that.

Arivs will be on for the tournie. I prolly will run nwserver on the old host (makes that everything is split over 3 machines, that won't lag for sure)

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2005, 12:38:25 AM »
Gah i was figgering out wut time the tourement would be on where i live and i figgerenedout that it would be 6:00 AM and i dont get up until like 9:00, i hope im wrong but i dont think i am...
plz do not send my any emails,cuz they wont get a reply...

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2005, 12:40:31 AM »
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K, since u cant put new toppics up on arivs part i post things here.
Participating  groups:
1.Antedilluvians
2.Brujah
3.Death Can Dance
4.Doriath A
5.Doriath B
6.Doriath C

Ive asked my brother to draw who fights against who and these are the results, i will include here the date and time i expect these groups on the place. I put the time in Dutch time (since the time zones is too complicated for me:p , but i dont think its hard for u to count ur own time from there)

DoriathA-Antedilluvians (saturday 22/01 at 13.00 hours)
Brujah-DoriathC (saturday 22/01 at 14.00 hours)
DcD-DoriathB (saturday 22/01 at 15.00 hours)
*16.00 hours : Batle royal (Since we need 4 winners to go on to the next round ive decided to have a batle royal with the 3 losing groups, winner of it will get his ticket to next round)

Location:
well i will write melisa if it will be possible to run Arivs at that time. If its possible tournament will be held there, if not it will be held at justbehave server. So excact location will follow soon.
I will also ask to make this server PASSWORD PROTECTED. I will send the password to the group leaders  (alkti, Razor, Blood-Angel) so they cann pass it on to the players.
I expect that the 2 battling groups come to the server at time , i will allow a 15min tollerance. make sure u dont come to early either , that will cause unneeded lag for the groups that duel that time. There will be no visitors/watchers present. i will make a team of 3 who will be judge. If a certan groups shows up with only 2/1 person then the question will be asked to the opposite group if they will drop 1/2 players or not. If not, the battle continues with 3vs2 or 3vs1.

restrictions:
1.When all players arive i expect on the head judge (me :P) sign to stop talking and listening for batle restriction, this avoids chaos, mis or not understanding and me repeating everything 2
2.On my signal each team will stand at the edge of the batlefield and make the opposite team hostile
3.When i say go , u can begin the fight (no prebuffing)
4.The battle is won when ur team won 2 rounds (a round is won when opponent team is killed)
5.To make it more tactical: after round 1, the LOSING group, will have the opportunity to get new characters (players remain the same), should they win the next round, the other team has advantage of this opportunnity.

rules:
 :excl: penalty of breaking these is lost of a round :excl:
1.No healing of any kind
2.No hellball
3.hiding is min every 6 seconds
4.When u got killed , u have to go immediatly after respawning to the main entering door in arivs (big door that is always locked there when u enter server)
5.No bitching after a round, it is to the judges to decide wether other team cheated

so i think if said everything, if there are more questions do it here are any more
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What is that time > GMT ? GMT +2 ? I think it's GMT +1/+2 but I am not sure about dutch time .
The rules seems fair to me . But is resurrection considered healing ?

Off topic : Mort , I'll be happy to know what is the DcD team because I thought Ade , Kazz , me would be the team but I saw King Kong who told me he would be in DcD team . I've got some ideas about the teams too PM me about that .
« Last Edit: January 12, 2005, 12:41:42 AM by Maxou »
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 12:54:40 AM »
Gah i was figgering out when the tourement will be on where i live and it was on at 6:00 AM and i usaly get up at 9:00 AM, i hope im wrong....
plz do not send my any emails,cuz they wont get a reply...

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2005, 12:55:44 AM »
sry for the repeat but it didnt show up on mine..
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2005, 10:16:57 AM »
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What is that time > GMT ? GMT +2 ? I think it's GMT +1/+2 but I am not sure about dutch time .
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Well it can be +1 or +2 depending on the time of the year. But you can say +1 gmt for the tournie :)

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 11:43:49 AM »
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question is regeneration consedareate as healing and isnt there aniway for participan to watch at least the end of there duel (thats a bit unfair for them=/)
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Regeneration and wof will be allowed.
and i dont realy understand ur question kristie. is it that ur group will be able to watch the other groups duels? Well a 15 minute tollerance is allowed, so if by example ur group battle start at 14.00 hours, then u can show up at 13.45-14.15

 :excl: ow and about the time zone , i post now the dutch time in here: 17.45
so if u take time to see when i posted this reply on lucid magic time and if u count out how much lucid magic time difference from ur time u can easily count out how much dutch time differences from ur time. Just a lil math :P :excl:
« Last Edit: January 12, 2005, 01:39:50 PM by Morticia »
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2005, 01:33:32 PM »
ill look forward to it   :D

btw testin timezone

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2005, 01:56:29 PM »
that post was 4:43 pm my time so for me the times are one hour earlier then the times?
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged,
their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoyce.
But still,
the place you live in is that more drab an empty that they're gone.
I guess I just miss my friend."
-The Shawshank Redemption

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2005, 02:15:10 PM »
i would imagine so, you are GMT then (the only one to be :))

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2005, 02:20:13 PM »
am is after midday right?
and its 12/01 at u too right?
well if it is :
17.45====08.43am
so a difference of 3 hours
4.43pm====8.43am
so a difference of 16 hours
3-16 is -13

so u need to count down 13 hours at the tournament hour posted

if am is before midday and its 12/01 at ur place too:
17.45===8.43am
a difference of 9 hours
4.43pm===8.43am
a difference of 8 hours
8-9 is -1
so u need to count down 1 hour

hm , i think am is before midday:p
« Last Edit: January 12, 2005, 02:32:19 PM by Morticia »
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2005, 03:48:29 PM »
it's pm for past midday, and am for after midnight.
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged,
their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoyce.
But still,
the place you live in is that more drab an empty that they're gone.
I guess I just miss my friend."
-The Shawshank Redemption

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2005, 03:49:38 PM »
If u live in Vancouver wut time would the tourement be on at if ur time is it 15:00??
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2005, 04:20:42 PM »
I hope everybody figures out their timezones before Saturday  :/

http://www.worldtimezone.com/

Try World Timezone Maps at the top and select either 12hr or 24 hr

Who are the judges and how many do you need? One judge per player?

Why not have the judges freeze whoever dies that way they can't interfere in anyway possible?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2005, 04:24:43 PM by Meclar »

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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2005, 04:33:11 PM »
good idea, when they hit the deck, use the rune on them and they will stay down.

and there are 3 judges..

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2005, 05:27:50 PM »
O damn it i have to get up at 6:00AM now, crap
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2005, 05:32:15 PM »
my question was....... when a part of the team died he must go in a other room thats not fair for him he cant even see the end of his won match and i was wondering if there is ani chance that a team or a team member that particpi at the tourney but is not fighting (ex: doriath vs brujha could a dcd member that particip in the tourney comme see the match)

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2005, 05:54:53 PM »
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O damn it i have to get up at 6:00AM now, crap
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hoho, that made me laugh :)

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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2005, 05:58:00 PM »
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my question was....... when a part of the team died he must go in a other room thats not fair for him he cant even see the end of his won match and i was wondering if there is ani chance that a team or a team member that particpi at the tourney but is not fighting (ex: doriath vs brujha could a dcd member that particip in the tourney comme see the match)
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re: dead ppl, well maybe they could be stunned on the floor when dead (as you know this means that the player stays down in arivs)

Re: spectators, i wouldnt mind so much, but i think mort thinks that it would add an element of possible confusion to the proceedings if there were non-participants present.. naturally this might be wrong, i guess we wait until mort arrives.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2005, 06:16:35 PM »
....right I'm now 0 according to that, and the times for the tourney are written in +1 right?
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged,
their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoyce.
But still,
the place you live in is that more drab an empty that they're gone.
I guess I just miss my friend."
-The Shawshank Redemption

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2005, 08:04:20 PM »
lol but i would not like any spectaters except the judges for disracion purposes..
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2005, 06:09:09 AM »
well players from other teams aren't supposed to join till their match is up.
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged,
their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoyce.
But still,
the place you live in is that more drab an empty that they're gone.
I guess I just miss my friend."
-The Shawshank Redemption

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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2005, 08:28:04 AM »
as i said , there is a 15 min tollerance kristie for other teams to join the server.
why this decission that non fighting teams cant watch other teams fight?
simple, causes unneeded lag. as u know the tourney will run on arivs, 3vs3 makes 6 + 3 judges makes 9 players active. If we allow other teams then the player load will be too high wich influences the duel.
off course i ll post the results down here after the first day. u need them for the halve finals :P

for the stay on ground issue or not: well i dont know how the tvt arena will be, will players get teleported or not? i dont know. We ll have to wait until melisa gives more info on that.

Bloodangel: its realy more accurate if u count out ur time my way :P at least if u do it right.
let me try to pull out a lil formula here for it.

((ur time in hours)-(LucidMagic time in hours))-9 = hours u have to count up to ur tourney time

for example:
i look to lm time on forum, it says 05.00 am
on the same time i look on my watch, it says 03.25am
--->03.25-05.00=-2.35
--->-2.35-9=-11.35
--->suppose my tournament hour is 14.00 hour dutch time
      14.00+(-11.35)=02.25
--->so this poor bastard has to get out of bed at 02.25am to play a tourney :P


if u find this to difficult to count (sigh) then just meet someone who lives in a dutch zone in nwn and ask him what time it is at that moment , compare that to ur time and u have the difference between ur timezone and dutch timezone
« Last Edit: January 13, 2005, 08:28:55 AM by Morticia »
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2005, 11:30:14 AM »
RAWR! you could just look at the map meclar posted and say where you are (0,+1,+2 or +3) and tell me if the times are told in 0,+1,+2 or +3, cuz I'm on 0 and then it's pretty accurate telling wether or not I'm 1 hour behind or not. So far I think it's 1 hour behind so your +1, but I hate things like these, because for the battles ppl started telling me I'm GTM+1, but I'm obviously not.....

(Times on LM are shown as what you've chosen, so if you set it to your own times zone it's the time you have at home).
« Last Edit: January 13, 2005, 11:33:02 AM by Blood Angel »
"Some birds aren't meant to be caged,
their feathers are just too bright.
And when they fly away,
the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoyce.
But still,
the place you live in is that more drab an empty that they're gone.
I guess I just miss my friend."
-The Shawshank Redemption

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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2005, 12:35:21 PM »
aha that map is intresting , just click on it and u can see the belgian time.
no need for the map , just click on tabel ; what time is it in.../more/belgian-brussels
« Last Edit: January 13, 2005, 12:38:50 PM by Morticia »
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2005, 03:42:45 PM »
woah those times arew a bit nasty, anyone in europe (which is quite a lot) will be getting up at like 3/4 in the morning :/

imo those times are a bit too nasty, should be  around 7pm gmt so the whole of europe is fine and usa is fine too ( around 1pm for usa)

unless im doing some bad time calculations, not that its obvious what time it is, why dont u jsut post what time it is, ie gmt-5?  :o
« Last Edit: January 13, 2005, 03:43:31 PM by Cannixxxx »