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Offline gashmo

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« on: December 21, 2004, 08:16:59 AM »
The biggest bittorrent site in the world, suprnova.org,  has closed down :/
That site served about 50% or more of all the world's torrents...

It shut down suddenly overnight. Wish they had given us some warning so we could suck out all the torrents we needed.

Maybe no one here agrees, but I think the IP regime imposed by the western world protects te creater's ownership of the rights to his work either in the wrong way or for too long.

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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2004, 07:11:32 PM »
What is torrents and I don't understand what you are talking about when you mention "IP regime"

Are you referring to TCP/IP?

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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2004, 07:39:44 PM »
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What is torrents and I don't understand what you are talking about when you mention "IP regime"

Are you referring to TCP/IP?
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I think it are just files to download, bitorrent is some kind of filesharing program or so.

Can be used legal and illegal as whit most of this kind of programs. I don't know that www.suprnova.org good enough to be sure, but I guess it was a bit too illigal or something. Always gets those things closed.

(can be completly wrong, just used google to get some info :P)

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2004, 10:07:13 PM »
Damn you cruel world!! DAMN YOU!!!!!
Watch it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2004, 11:34:44 PM »
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Damn you cruel world!! DAMN YOU!!!!!
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Eh.  Makes no difference to me.  The only stuff I use BitTorrent for is anime.  And I can still download from www.downloadanime.org.  

P.S.  How can you say "Long live the King!" right after you just said "The King is Dead!"?  Don't you know if something is dead, it stays dead unless somehow it wasn't dead in the first place or it was resurrected?  The only reason people used to say "Long live the King" afterwards is so they can wish the new king long life.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2004, 05:45:52 AM »
iceycool, the quote is the traditional saying following the death of any monarch when there is an heir apparent..

so in England, say if King George had a son named Prince Charming, upon King George's death, people would shout "The King is Dead! Long Live the King!" and King Charming would step up instantly - everyone bows to him at the dead king's bedside... see?

IP regime = Intellectual property regime...

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2004, 10:48:30 AM »
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iceycool, the quote is the traditional saying following the death of any monarch when there is an heir apparent..

so in England, say if King George had a son named Prince Charming, upon King George's death, people would shout "The King is Dead! Long Live the King!" and King Charming would step up instantly - everyone bows to him at the dead king's bedside... see?

IP regime = Intellectual property regime...
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Um... yea... that's kinda what I said in my post earlier.  They say Long Live the King to the new King.  The problem here is... who's the new King of Torrents?
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2004, 11:14:10 AM »
1) No one can force someone to/take down a website. The owner has to.
2) You'd say "The King is dead!" and once a new website shows up, THEN you say "Long live the King!"

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2004, 11:16:38 AM »
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2) You'd say "The King is dead!" and once a new website shows up, THEN you say "Long live the King!"
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That's what I've been tryin to say this whole time.  I hope what Celest said helped clarify my point.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2004, 11:48:54 AM »
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1) No one can force someone to/take down a website. The owner has to.
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Woud rather say, it's very difficult to take a website down. You need to do 'bad things' or forget to pay the company hosting it.

If you still want to do illigal stuff, there ways to cover yourself before someone can enter. Anyway, I refuse to enter site that do that, because it just has a smell on it.

And useing Iexplore is a bad thing to do, don't do it for sure when going to these sites. Just vieuwing a page online can have your pc hacked whit Iexplore. They call it 'frame injection vulnerability' (just type that in google if you want to know more :P).

(If you want to reply on that Iexplore part, make a new topic. )

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2004, 11:54:53 AM »
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1) No one can force someone to/take down a website. The owner has to.
2) You'd say "The King is dead!" and once a new website shows up, THEN you say "Long live the King!"

~Celestial
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It's actually quite easy to take down a web site, if your material doesn't conform to your ISP or Web Hosting service polices.  Happend to me...won't say why  :ninja:

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2004, 02:12:33 PM »
there's a lot of sites running torreents besides suprnova
so yes there is anew king but now its a bit like guerrilla warfare cos no one ones to tell whop the new king is. It makes it too easy for the people to track him down and kill him...

so now its going back to the old days when software was really hard to get . but it isn't quite as bad as that yet.