I think this discussion should be over by now and that some ppl should realize that perhaps these 12-20ac players do know it's all about 20s, but still feel that it's fun. yes lvl 22 items is mathematically correct, but it's pretty obvious that they won't turn 12-20ac down when they feel that it's fun.
I did once play 12ac and 20ac (but in 20ac I still used 12
), it was easy because I was a mage, but still quite hard to kill those with 1000 hp when I only did around 30 dmg.
It's fine that some ppl play one way whereas other ppl play another way, we can't judge each other for playing the game the wrong way, since it's ourselves creating the way we play the game.
I started playing online with only the items I had gained in nwn (I didn't create items), I only used what I had found while playing. Now I got mad because ppl made their own items, but I can't say they're playing the wrong way now can I?