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You better get NWN 2!...I guess i should just be glad you aren't dead.

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Hell yeah  

Though it will depend if I get a work on those holidays ...
Hard to get in France for summer vacations .
But if I get one , fear the dwarf power   They'll kick everyone ass and you'll never walk again  

Whoa that jimbo's slowing down thread turned into a "unofficial absence thread" better than hell's oficial one

My turn then : I guess I'll stop nwn for a while . I am actually working , in september I'll go away in holidays then I'll study my future job in october , and I'll get my week end taken by my gf .

I may stop on GodSpire or on LM sometimes though . Cya guys .

I said I would fix some of the issues when I finished my summer work which is by the end of this week.  So can everyone just relax?

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Sorry I didn't pay attention .

Silly me . I guess bus was right I was too busy "crying and throwing mud" . Whatever that mean . I only understand that was offensive .

Meclar , I must say I think there IS an area problem . That area problem is added to the amount of problems GodSpire ( and nwn ) currently have .
It's the whole amount of problems that make the number of people playing on GodSpire going down .  

About common sense ... hmm I must say that I learned how to shout only 6-7 months ago Hence I think noobs ( I mean true noobs ) won't know how to .
Anyway it's normal that when you log in a server for the first time you're lost . Then you need to keep things as simple as they can be .

About that fair play and common sense in an arena , I , and I think most of new people entering a pvp server didn't know about the rules .
When I first entered in GodSpire , I attacked bravely with my lvl 1 sorcerer a lvl 40 "GO ARENA SERVER" I thought , I got kicked in the butt , and I needed a sent to tell me to read the rules .

Btw when I first read your words about the ante server , I , too , thought you meant it in a negative connotation . Though I have limited english and I don't understand what "powdered bum" mean so mea culpa

Hmm btw , Belog ( and other NPCs ) used to give players sometimes , a partial specific gear ( when you ask him a str gear , he only , as an exemple , gave me armor and shield , nor weapon , boots , etc ) was that fixed?

Please also remember that GodSpire is totally free, where as L2 and other cost cost money to play.  We run GodSpire on our free time and do the best we can.

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Hubba and mercy are supposed to be on daily .
They're DMs . Can't they try to fix the problem in the few time they're on ?

Ok, havent read most of the posts.. Alot of them where the same thing.
Now, Lost? the Rakshasa YELLS "Hey anyone need a lift to the halls" or something along those lines every second and waves his arms.

Now, that aside even if you didnt get a lift its STRIEGHT AHEAD, lol jesus. If you cant make your way there im surprised you negotiated your way through the hole in your T-Shirt// Let alone those 2 holes in your pants, eeek, anyway.

This is partly why I pretty much gave up on NWN1 GodSpire, people think we can pull a mirricle out of our ass and players will be falling off the brim as GodSpire gets overpopulated.
We cant sway people over with server changes.. They have to come and experiance the TRUE GodSpire game play and see what they think themselves.

Like Mo said, This server IS for Advanced players... Though yes, n00bs are indeed welcome but if you dont have a brain, or one that can handle simply getting to the halls
"3 doors.... omg.... I cant handle this.." (2 dont work...........) than you shouldent be in GodSpire at all or even near a PC.

Now, I aint gonna let GodSpire die either, what you see isnt GodSpire dieing. Its GodSpire Goin to sleep.
NWN2 GodSpire WILL rise again, and be the first ground breaking server just like it was back in the day (And even though lacking players is still groundbreaking now).
And if Matt dont come back im goin to the UK for a nad kicking spree.
Ok, there probly and possibly more but that will do, happy dueling, guild waring or whatever. Im goin back to LINEAGE 2 Chronicle 3! (Nah not official, found a NICE server with thousands of people and Official server files : p everything I know of is working yay High Rate/LowRate/Mid Rate)

Later

~Just D

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If a lot of people say there is a problem then there IS a problem . It's not that simple as you're trying to say .
"Hey anyone need a lift to the halls?" , yeah the rashaka says that . Though I never understood what "lift" meant . I found it with luck . Most of people in GodSpire have limited english ( me included ) , I think you can understand that . It doesn't mean they're dumb or stupid .
Btw , "halls" isn't really a word with the same meaning as "arena" . Hence most of new players don't talk to the rashaka .

Let's say you're a total newb . You come for the first time to GodSpire .
- You land in a boat , in front of you , the sailor ( I think it is the sailor ) . You talk to him and he says nearly nothing interesting apart from the presentation of GodSpire .
- In front of you again an other boat . Vash is standing . You talk to him , he asks you to go to the city . You're noob . You think : "OMG going to the city , I can go to the arena !" . You go . You get lost . You quit .
- Let's say you DON'T talk to vash . You go to where the rashaka stands . "Omg a weirdo asking me to go to the "hall" wtf is he talking about ! I just want to go to the arena !" 2 choice , you still talk to him and go with luck to the arena . Or you don't talk to him . Going to the arena is not that simple . I even get lost ( you might say it's because I am stupid but I guess some other people more clever than me and you got lost again there . )
- You get to the arena . "OMG BIG ZONE !!! WHERE ARE THE DAMN PLAYERS??" 1) You find em and FINALLY plays to the TRUE GodSpire .
2) You don't find them , explore the zone , get lost , quit .

Hence we have few problems for new players :
- Bad location of the rashaka : He should be at the VERY beggining of the map .
- The vocabulary that is too good for people with limited english .
- The location of Vash ; he should be in a zone INSIDE the arena .
- Zone and area aren't displayed in the map making it clear to go through GodSpire .
- An arena which is WAY too big for the number of people that plays on GodSpire atm .
- A better explanation of what zones are . Like updating the sailor for that .

"Now, I aint gonna let GodSpire die either, what you see isnt GodSpire dieing. Its GodSpire Goin to sleep.
NWN2 GodSpire WILL rise again, and be the first ground breaking server just like it was back in the day (And even though lacking players is still groundbreaking now)."

What you're trying to say is that you don't care about GodSpire in nwn 1 and that we just have to wait till nwn 2 ? You just rejected in your post all the players that tried to help , poiting out things that cause problems in the current GodSpire .

Ok , we all agreed that both players in GodSpire , I mean guys that drop in often in GodSpire are in a community . We don't care atm if those players are positive or negative members of that community , what matters is that everyone in that community is trying to "save" a server , GodSpire .

We can debate on WHY GodSpire is dying forever (though we have most of the importants reasons) but why don't we just debate on HOW to save GodSpire .
Like Hellmaster did in his first post why don't we just try to gather solutions , ideas of those players .
I'll propose mine later , actually I have no time for that .

The problem isn't so much as GodSpire being confusing or poorly laid out maps and areas, so much as there are no more new players to NWN (good players).  GodSpire is an advanced PvP server, not a place for noobs, in fact, in my opinion the learning curve to GodSpire is pretty steep.  This is why you'll see more players on at CM or Anti servers cause these places are more noob friendly, as they have small learning curves.  Normally players "graduate" to GodSpire from other servers.  This isn't happening so much anymore since there is clearly a lack of new talented pvp players on NWN.  Only the moronic bafoon noobish types we are seeing lately.

GodSpire isn't dying, because there are a lot of good players who care a lot about it and won't let it die.  It has always has a very strong community as is evident with this forum.  Do not count on new players to "save" GodSpire.  Unfortunately I do not think this will happen.

Tweaks to the mod won't make any difference.  The best thing to do it keep playing, and perhaps play on some other servers, find good players there, and tell them to try GodSpire out.  That would be the most effective thing to do.

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I don't agree . I didn't read the whole thread atm , I'll do but here's a post that need to be replied .

"The problem isn't so much as GodSpire being confusing or poorly laid out maps and areas, so much as there are no more new players to NWN (good players).  "
> What do you do if even "advenced players" ( sigh ) from other servers get confused ?

"GodSpire is an advanced PvP server, not a place for noobs, in fact, in my opinion the learning curve to GodSpire is pretty steep."
> Old newbs become good players . And people that once were newbs on a server won't go elsewhere once they grew up in "advanced" players"

"Normally players "graduate" to GodSpire from other servers."
> Some do . But most of them stay on other server . Perhaps they used to do so but now they don't .

"This isn't happening so much anymore since there is clearly a lack of new talented pvp players on NWN.  Only the moronic bafoon noobish types we are seeing lately."
> How can I even reply to that ? New talented pvp players in NWN are still there . But they go on other server . Simple .

"GodSpire isn't dying, because there are a lot of good players who care a lot about it and won't let it die.  It has always has a very strong community as is evident with this forum."
> GodSpire is dying . I am not the only one that feels so . I agree with you on the community but those players are trying to do something and are getting rejected here .

"Tweaks to the mod won't make any difference.  The best thing to do it keep playing, and perhaps play on some other servers, find good players there, and tell them to try GodSpire out.  That would be the most effective thing to do."
> Tweaks on the mod WOULD do difference . Perhaps a more noob friendly attitude hence noobs grew in "advenced players" .


 

http://antediluvians.an.ohost.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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And ? It's their personnal opinion . I don't see the purpose of the thread atm .

Not sure what's worse Khad's position or that account name that logged...

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LMAO !! I didn't see the account but I guess it's the account name

And a lot of new players told me that the new GodSpire was kinda confusing . They simply don't get they need to talk to the rashaka to be tele in the hall . Perhaps a pannel ( like TALK TO THE RASHAKA TO GO TO THE ARENA ) would help .

Oh btw the official roster ( the one not in the protected forum need to be updated ) . Just to let you know

I DIDN'T DOO ANYTHING....she moved before i could

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Me too , I just happened to sit here
I can't be responsible for Caddie's behavior

imo we should kick him. His builds aren't that good. (Cheap Clerics), and he is annoying.

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Sound a pretty good reason to kick him ( who saw a cleric wof-harm-blade hater here ? who ? )

If that's true that's insane cause my CD is broken
And was it me or people couldn't reply to post in lucid magic ?