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Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on September 10, 2004, 07:38:08 AM: hey guys!
anyone who has been to smith hold will probably have noted that occasionally your combat box puts out the following
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The Rule of Threes is in Effect
The Rule of Threes is in Effect
The Rule of Threes is in Effect

420 and throbble are only saying that its a secret for us to find out, and I'll tell you, it's really compicated. Even Cuchalann doesn't know it, and he's a DM there. What we know so far:
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It has something to do mainly with the city center.
The Cistern holds much signifigance.
It is activated and deactivated in the same way.
It is likely activated by someone without knowing they activated it.
It weakens the "walls" between planes.(It makes it easier to pass through them, on purpose or not. EX Jack Sparrow may be found in Sigil Tavern(awesome place- always worth a visit)
Talking to Trappenwitz in the Cistern while it's activated will lead to more info.

Possible new leads:
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It is possibly activated in the West side of the City Center.(Around the Bizaar. We think this because Mel[Tea-Cup] activated it last night[We are almost 100% positive of this; either she activated it, or 420 used the DM that was already logged on to activated it because he knew cuchalann and I were talking about it.] MEL PLEASE TELL US EXACTLY WHERE YOU WERE THEN AND WHAT YOU WERE DOING IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, PLEASE!)

Well that is all the info I have right now. I'll post more as I find it, and anyone who turns up new information please post it here.

Lord Elessar
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 10, 2004, 08:58:09 AM: i'll stop by throbbyserv sometime and check it out.. *searches his mind for what it might be*
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on September 11, 2004, 06:07:55 PM: Ok, I have done a little research and it turns out that it should be "The Rule of Threes" plural. Captain Jack Sparrow had it right all along (Throbblefoot's doing of course!) but the "world event" message that players recieved was incorrect.

Fixed now, and players should also get a message when The Rule of Threes is no longer in effect.

Throbbleserv will be up in a few hours, come on by, buy a pint and chat about the clan battle!

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: bus driver on September 12, 2004, 04:01:55 AM: *wonders if it has anything to do with the two step teleportation process*
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Xen on September 12, 2004, 05:35:33 AM: Your server sounds somewhat interesting, I can never find it however, lol.

Xen.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on September 12, 2004, 08:05:10 AM: its under the social tab- if you have someone on your buddy list whose been to it, you can always have tehm go to it and then use your buddy list to get to it. thats how i got pudge to it

-Lord Elessar
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Throbblefoot on September 12, 2004, 02:04:48 PM: Part of the reason you never see ThrobbleServ is that we only bring it up a few times a week.

Likely times to find ThrobbleServ:
- Tuesday 6PM - 4AM GMT
- Friday 6PM - 4AM GMT
- Sunday 12AM - 8AM GMT

Unlikely times to find ThrobbleServ:
- Any time Throbblefoot is on GS!

However, if you see 420 or me on GS and want to take a peek at Smith Hold, we're usually happy to accomodate!

-Throbblefoot
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on September 12, 2004, 02:12:06 PM: I have had some problems with people attacking the NPCs in Smith Hold, I am scripting up a rather nasty surprise for people who violently lash out at the kind Dwarves of this fine, upstanding city. Don't know how (though I have my suspicions), but some people have figured out how to kill "plot" NPCs.

Once I have remedied this problem I will run Throbbleserv, probably Monday.

Also, who is this "Taloneus2000" jerk, I have seen him on GodSpire and he had the generic dueling items in his inventory when he came to vist our server. Then he proceeded to attack the NPCs!

What a jerk!

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Lance Ezekiel on September 15, 2004, 12:49:03 AM: The Rule of Threes is sovled to bad Elessar i got there 1st :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on September 15, 2004, 01:34:56 AM: Quote
The Rule of Threes is sovled to bad Elessar i got there 1st :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I was second! Aren't you jealous Elessar? :P
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Post by: Throbblefoot on September 15, 2004, 01:41:42 AM: Rule of Threes is once again in effect!

-Throbblefoot
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: JeK on September 18, 2004, 08:11:24 AM: I was there once i think lol... is it that place with the things in the air and then they crash and u chase them? aww never mind <_<
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on September 18, 2004, 09:02:51 PM: dammit no fair my brother has the dam cd! >.< AAARRRGHGHHH!!!!
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on September 18, 2004, 11:41:54 PM: Quote
dammit no fair my brother has the dam cd! >.< AAARRRGHGHHH!!!!
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Hee hee, I knew you were going to freak!

Ah well, you'll have plenty of chances to figure it out, after all, they only saw the result of the Rule of Threes, they don't know what activates/deactivates it.

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on September 18, 2004, 11:52:27 PM: Activating/deactivating the Rule of Three....

Well, this might be too obvious, but it might have something to do with the number three...

Does anyone else ever notice how there's always three of something... i.e. if you've ever gone to the kitchen, you'll see THREE giant figures which if memory serves me right, a giant, ogre, and golem. Also, in the room that's real dark you see an Angel, a Devil and something else i can't remember. Activating the Rule of Three might be that you see two things but there's a third component you need to fulfill...
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 19, 2004, 10:57:39 AM: you click on three of them in order! :P

angel, (whatever's not angel or devil), and then devil

or reversed.. i dunno!!! weeeeeee!
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on September 19, 2004, 02:32:30 PM: Quote
angel, (whatever's not angel or devil), and then devil
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Uh, "Sinderella" is not an angel, she is an "Erinyes", the Baatezu (Devil) version of a Succubus.

But, that is a very good line of reasoning, good job.

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 19, 2004, 02:51:26 PM: HEY! don't yell at me 420 :( icey said it was an angel and a devil, i only went to SH once... *sobs*
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on September 19, 2004, 03:59:14 PM: Oh sure... put the blame right back on me... It's alright, it's my fault for not remembering it correctly. It makes sense why she's named Sinderella and not Cinderella now.

And don't worry Celestial, be happy. 420 said "good job" for your line of reasoning :D
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Post by: Celestial1 on September 20, 2004, 05:08:39 PM: i realize that :D

hypothesis #1
i think you might have to find a certain 3 statues that are opposites (good, neutral, bad type of thing) and use them in that order...

hypothesis #2
it could be the numbers of players on, or in an area...

hypothesis #3
also could be types of damage, items being used or equiped... or amount of an enchantment on armor.

theres a couple stuff for you guys to go on...
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on September 21, 2004, 12:51:37 AM: I agree with hypothesis number two...

It might be the certain number of players that are a multiple of three that activate the Rule of Three...

We'll have to get a group of three, excluding a DM, together and experiment
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on September 21, 2004, 07:21:29 AM: no no no 420 has told me that you can trigger it even if you are the only one on. and as to the armor one i seriously doubt it, and i also doubt the first one.

-Lord Elessar
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 21, 2004, 08:33:09 AM: you mean hypothesis number 3. :P
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: cuchulann on September 23, 2004, 01:23:20 AM: Ok I was on for a few hours tonight while the rule of three was in effect. I took a look around and noticed the following:
1. While the rule of three was in effect there were only 2 groups of merchants in the bazzar, mindflayers and elves. Both of these groups were groups of three. and there were a total of three people logged onto the server, Throbblefoot (as DM), 420, and myself.
This makes 3 groups of three from what are random instances. Ie #of players on the server, and #of random merchants in the bazzar.
2. when the rule of three ended, the type of merchants in the bazzar had changed. Now there were The elves, and human merchants. The humans were a group of 2.
3. Throughout the course of the night the rule of threes did not occur again while i was on the server, and I did not note that Mindflayers and elves were in the bazar at the same time again. Other combinations did occur but the event did not trigger.
4. I also made note of he other merchant groups that came and went wihle the rule was not active Red Wizards and Humans- groups of 2, Halflings- group of 4, and goblins- group of 5.

I am almost completly certain now that the mindflayer and elf merchants must be present for the event to trigger. But there may be another group of merchants that show up in threes that I did not record and may also be connected. So I'm pretty sure I have figured out how it works but I'll have to see it in action again before I know for certain.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on September 23, 2004, 02:26:40 AM: Ah hah! I knew it had something to do with the number of NPC's present. It would appear we are getting one step closer to solving the Rule of Three...

Oooooo, 420 gave me a hint earlier tonight. He said:

"It has something to do with the number three."

I know, I know. I said that before but at least it's confirmed now.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 23, 2004, 08:40:29 AM: hypothesis 2 IS WORKING!!!!!

"hypothesis #2
it could be the numbers of players on, or in an area..."

players didn't need to be PC only ;)
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on September 23, 2004, 12:31:07 PM: Quote
hypothesis 2 IS WORKING!!!!!

"hypothesis #2
it could be the numbers of players on, or in an area..."

players didn't need to be PC only ;)
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NPC means "non-player character", so technically, NPCs aren't players.

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on September 23, 2004, 02:53:40 PM: i meant to put characters.

happy now? :P

wait, don't answer that.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on November 03, 2004, 04:02:19 PM: This idea just dawned on me earlier... its probably wrong but

Hypothesis #4!!
It could be activated at 3:33 in some time-zone. If you're on and the rule of threes activates, remember the time. If the time happens to be at _:33 it could clue to the R.O.Ts.

Remember, this is probably totally wrong, but i figure i might as well post it.

(edit) Also note the day... it may add another clue.

"or reversed.. i dunno!!! weeeeeee!" -Meeeeeee!

~Celestial
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on November 03, 2004, 04:51:01 PM: I just had a scary thought:

What if, every time someone got close to figuring out how the Rule of Threes works, 420 changed it?

That cheap bastard!

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on November 03, 2004, 05:44:28 PM: I can see it now! AHH:

Shadowfury: "Hmm, well that guy said it had to do with the mindflayer and elves being there..."
420: "Yes, a chance to change the rule of threes! those suckers will never guess it!"
Celestial1: "Shadow, you're an idiot. But, i have a plan B! Plan B: think of a plan C!"
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on November 03, 2004, 06:05:45 PM: Quote
I just had a scary thought:

What if, every time someone got close to figuring out how the Rule of Threes works, 420 changed it?

That cheap bastard!

-420
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Gee, I didn't know you like referring yourself in third person 420. Btw, YES, THAT WOULD BE CHEAP!! Excuse the caps lock :D

P.S. My feelings are hurt cuz Celest called me an idiot... even tho it didn't really happen :unsure:
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on November 03, 2004, 06:13:38 PM: Ok, fine... uhm.. replace the shadowfury with uh..."or reversed.. i dunno! weeeeee!"
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Post by: 420 on November 03, 2004, 06:41:04 PM: Quote
Gee, I didn't know you like referring yourself in third person 420.
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eh.. I'm a big fan of the Hulk.

OK, hint time!

Here is a list of things that don't trigger the Rule of Threes event:

Eggs
Milk
Bread
Lettuce
Tomatos
Limes
Toilet Paper
Bacon
Beef Jerky

Oh wait... that's my grocery list, sorry!

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on November 03, 2004, 06:59:07 PM: Quote
I just had a scary thought:

What if, every time someone got close to figuring out how the Rule of Threes works, 420 changed it?

That cheap bastard!

-420
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hahhaha 420....
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: iceycool56 on November 04, 2004, 06:19:29 PM: I really want to figure out the Rule of Threes. I want the secret all to myself so I can feel special but I realize that I'm goin to need help on this. So, I'm going to form an elite group of players and together we will figure out the rule. Who wants in?
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Blood Angel on November 04, 2004, 06:51:21 PM: if you send me the info that is on the rule thng I can try to crack it. the thing is that I got kinda confused when trying to do any good today, cuz I don't know anything about it :P
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on November 04, 2004, 07:43:08 PM: I want credit for my witty replies :P

Give me some clues and i'll put together possible solutions
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Post by: Raelias on November 07, 2004, 04:23:19 PM: All I know was I was on the server just a bit ago and the dang thing was activated. If I remember correct I had just entered Smith Hold and was on my way over to the Arena when it was activated and both BzK and Zaron were in the Arena. I was not in the Arena when it was activated nor did I do anything to activate it cept maybe step on a trigger perhaps. Ask BzK or Zaron what they both were doing when it was activated. Also I have another theory to put in. I think it is a completely random setting that 420 or Throbble put in there to make you go on a wild goose chase trying to find out what it is. Now something might trigger it but it might be beyond our ability to trigger it physically and he is silently laughing at us all right now...
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on November 07, 2004, 06:02:18 PM: Quote
Now something might trigger it but it might be beyond our ability to trigger it physically
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Hmm, very interesting...

-420
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Post by: iceycool56 on November 07, 2004, 11:26:24 PM: Yea I'm starting to think that maybe it's beyond our capabilities of activating the Rule of Threes.
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Post by: 420 on November 08, 2004, 02:16:25 AM: Quote
Yea I'm starting to think that maybe it's beyond our capabilities of activating the Rule of Threes.
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Even if that was true, figuring out what triggers it will give you the ability to attempt to trigger the Rule of Threes.

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Raelias on November 08, 2004, 06:01:32 PM: See it's always good to add the crazy one's oppinion in amung the stack. Though what 420 just said above me sounded pretty crazy. Jk. Actually sounded nonsensical if that is a word. I'm still pretty sure that 420 has some extremely odd or random trigger that he just wants to completely baffle and unerve you with.

You wicked wicked man.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Blood Angel on November 08, 2004, 06:10:08 PM: when this triggers uhm what happens??

everyone talks about it, but what does this rule do? what changes?
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Raelias on November 08, 2004, 06:24:18 PM: NO ONE KNOWS! That's the whole point. It displays this message three times in a row on the Action Log.

The Rule of Threes is in effect.
The Rule of Threes is in effect.
The Rule of Threes is in effect.

Or something like that. Then a little bit later 3 messages that say.

The Rule of Threes is no longer in effect.
The Rule of Threes is no longer in effect.
The Rule of Threes is no longer in effect.

Or something along those lines. I've only seen it once so I don't remember.
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Post by: Blood Angel on November 08, 2004, 07:05:41 PM: so something happens randomly and you start worrying about it... you guys should go figure out other quest and I tell you that in the long run you'll get the quest rules of the threes with info on it, cuz solving something that there and yet not, doesn't seem like it's time well spent.

but then again if there is a solution to it made by throbby/420 that can be found, then hurray to a good thinking quest! (nwn needs that)
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: 420 on November 08, 2004, 08:03:15 PM: Actually, someone already got really close to what causes the Rule of Threes on this forum but I didn't bring attention to it because it was a little too close.

Iceycool and Lance, and a couple others, have experienced the effects of the Rule of Threes. Ask them what they saw. (They still don't know what activates/deactivates it though)

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: BzK on November 08, 2004, 08:16:33 PM: Rule of Threes is in effect - Raven on Artemis was trying to sell something to the merchant in the Tavern of Doors and I had just logged on...

I'm starting to wonder if it's something less to do with the game and more like every 3rd person to log in or something like that.
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Celestial1 on November 24, 2004, 12:37:36 PM: Quote
Rule of Threes is in effect - Raven on Artemis was trying to sell something to the merchant in the Tavern of Doors and I had just logged on...

I'm starting to wonder if it's something less to do with the game and more like every 3rd person to log in or something like that.
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Ask raven what merchants were there.

if it was Mindflayer + elves = Bingo, we win!
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Post by: bus driver on November 24, 2004, 11:05:16 PM: i donno if 420 has brought this up but if you log in while the rule of 3 is in effect it will rumble for you and say blah blah three times ..........your not activating ............its just telling you its in effect ............i thought i was actavating it and was getting all excited cause i loged in and out like 5 times and each time i logged in it said it.............
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Post by: Throbblefoot on December 08, 2004, 03:21:17 AM: Yup: when the Rule is in effect, joining players are notified.

-Throbblefoot
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: cuchulann on April 19, 2005, 02:54:15 AM: Goodness the last relpy on this topic was last year!! Did everyone finally suss it out or give up? Heh then of course there was the time that LM was OOC. Strangely coincedental. Well I do know now what variables will prevent the rule of threes from hapening. Pretty sure on it too. But then what of the rule of fours? NARF!
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Post by: 420 on April 19, 2005, 12:28:19 PM: Quote
Goodness the last relpy on this topic was last year!! Did everyone finally suss it out or give up?
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I don't think it's been figured out yet but I'm going to be adding more stuff that the Rule of Threes will "unlock". This weekend be on the look out for subtle changes during the Rule of Threes. Who knows, you may get your hands on an item that no one has ever seen before!

-420
Title: THE RULE OF THREE
Post by: Illutian on April 19, 2005, 01:24:37 PM: who ever does, lemme see it and i'll dupe it :P

heheh

*starts up Smith Hold Blackmarket (SHBM)*