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Other => General Gaming => Topic started by: 420 on October 27, 2010, 01:23:36 PM
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Good Old Games now has NWN Diamond Edition for $9.99.
NWN Diamond on GOG (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/neverwinter_nights_diamond_edition/pp/972a67c48192728a34979d9a35164c1295401b71)
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My wife recently sold her Diamond copy of NWN on eBay, and bought a Platinum version instead. Now we both have the Platinum version, the only difference is that hers didn't come with the case and mine is the original so it's on four CD's rather than one DVD like hers is. She's happier with Platinum edition she said because she got the awesome little manual that comes with it. Diamond edition pisses me off because it's the same thing as the Platinum edition except that instead of coming with a badass manual you get it with three premium modules which are all short and unfinished.
It wouldn't be so bad if the premium modules were all longer and completed. It wouldn't hurt to have a manual with it either, even if it was just a simple one. I think they just got cheap in the end.
That's cool that they have it now though. I suppose it's for download only? In that case a manual is pretty irrelevant. :P
I actually played a little bit recently, hoping to try a relatively new series of mods that seemed popular, but they aren't that great so far. I got bored quickly.
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Cool. I totally forgot about GOG. I never played Planescape or Icewind Dale. I think I'll buy Planescape: Torment.
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I think I'll buy Planescape: Torment.
Hands down, the best game ever made in my opinion.
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My wife recently sold her Diamond copy of NWN on eBay, and bought a Platinum version instead. Now we both have the Platinum version, the only difference is that hers didn't come with the case and mine is the original so it's on four CD's rather than one DVD like hers is. She's happier with Platinum edition she said because she got the awesome little manual that comes with it. Diamond edition pisses me off because it's the same thing as the Platinum edition except that instead of coming with a badass manual you get it with three premium modules which are all short and unfinished.
It wouldn't be so bad if the premium modules were all longer and completed. It wouldn't hurt to have a manual with it either, even if it was just a simple one. I think they just got cheap in the end.
That's cool that they have it now though. I suppose it's for download only? In that case a manual is pretty irrelevant. :P
I actually played a little bit recently, hoping to try a relatively new series of mods that seemed popular, but they aren't that great so far. I got bored quickly.
There are manuals that come with the game digitally. Check your nwn folder. :P
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Hands down, the best game ever made in my opinion.
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Why's that?
There are manuals that come with the game digitally. Check your nwn folder. :P
I'm comparing value. Those premium modules are unfinished and worthless.
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Why's that?
I'm comparing value. Those premium modules are unfinished and worthless.
I understand that, but you were saying about how there were no manuals. I was just saying there is a pdf manual for NWN, SoU and HotU.
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Hands down, the best game ever made in my opinion.
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That seems to be a pretty popular opinion.
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Why's that?
Well, in addition to having some of the best voice acting and music, it's got to be the most unique setting for a RPG. Because it takes place in the Outlands, your PC's beliefs actually alter reality. Also, some of the coolest spell VFX, comparable with FF7. For instance, check out the Mechanus Cannon spell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZZEPoVb4c).
In addition, the storyline is very compelling. You start out as an immortal amnesiac who wakes up in a morgue staffed by zombies. There is a message tattooed on your back telling you to find your journal. From there you learn that your mortality was "removed" at your request by a night hag named Ravel Puzzlewell, the most evil and powerful night hag that ever existed.
Like any good RPG there are tons of side quests, your character can actually change classes (fighter/wizard/thief) and all of the companions you pick up have in-depth back stories that you can unlock through conversation and get xp or new spells or other cool shit. Also, like KotOR, the decisions you make throughout the game change your alignment and there are multiple endings based on your alignment and how you decide to handle the final confrontation.
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I understand that, but you were saying about how there were no manuals. I was just saying there is a pdf manual for NWN, SoU and HotU.
I meant a physical manual.
Well, in addition to having some of the best voice acting and music, it's got to be the most unique setting for a RPG. Because it takes place in the Outlands, your PC's beliefs actually alter reality. Also, some of the coolest spell VFX, comparable with FF7. For instance, check out the Mechanus Cannon spell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZZEPoVb4c).
In addition, the storyline is very compelling. You start out as an immortal amnesiac who wakes up in a morgue staffed by zombies. There is a message tattooed on your back telling you to find your journal. From there you learn that your mortality was "removed" at your request by a night hag named Ravel Puzzlewell, the most evil and powerful night hag that ever existed.
Like any good RPG there are tons of side quests, your character can actually change classes (fighter/wizard/thief) and all of the companions you pick up have in-depth back stories that you can unlock through conversation and get xp or new spells or other cool shit. Also, like KotOR, the decisions you make throughout the game change your alignment and there are multiple endings based on your alignment and how you decide to handle the final confrontation.
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That's all I needed to know. I just bought it, downloading it now. ( I skipped the storyline part of your explanation, just in case. ;) )
That seems to be a pretty popular opinion.
Did you buy it? My wife wants Icewind Dale. lol.
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420 never disappoints. Gonna check this out.
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Ooo, I should mention that a high intelligence, wisdom and charisma is required to unlock certain dialog options. If you make a big dumb fighter you'll miss out on a lot of the story.
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Guess Ill have to get back into it. I never got very far in Torment. The cutscenes tend to make vista crash. Damn half assed OS.
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Ooo, I should mention that a high intelligence, wisdom and charisma is required to unlock certain dialog options. If you make a big dumb fighter you'll miss out on a lot of the story.
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I noticed that, I gave myself well-rounded stats with a slightly higher int and str. Though, now that I realize much conflict can be avoided throughout the game with words alone, I wished I would have put a little more into wisdom. Oh, well, as I level I guess.
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Gonna buy it this weekend.
Too bad I wasted money on Civ5. Firaxis amazingly beat Flagship and Obsidian for releasing the buggiest game of all time. I can't play 2 minutes without the game crashing.
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Gonna buy it this weekend.
Too bad I wasted money on Civ5. Firaxis amazingly beat Flagship and Obsidian for releasing the buggiest game of all time. I can't play 2 minutes without the game crashing.
It may work better under different conditions, (I'm not suggesting that it's not the games fault) maybe try it on a separate HDD with XP on it? (assuming you have one or are able to easily set one up with it) I didn't want to suggest Vista, so I suggested XP. Although there is very likely many other factors that play into it, that may be one of the easier ones to try out. (unless you have other machines with the right specs at the ready) :P
Or does the problem run deeper than simply crashing? (meaning it's buggy as hell, even when it is working?)
I glanced at Civ 5 as well while browsing Newegg the other day, but when I seen that it was $50 I looked away immediately. Besides, even if it was less than $20 I probably would have considered it for a whole 30 seconds before deciding it was a waste of cash. The civ games have never been able to hold my attention for very long. I quickly get bored and move on. Normally I can't finish a single game before getting bored.
Planescape: Torment kept me up last night. :P I'm restricted to only certain PC games right now because I got tendonitis in my left wrist about a week and a half ago and even though it's almost completely healed, it's not quite there yet. The place it's in shows me that it's caused from work and not games, but nonetheless, even with the little strain on my wrist a controller can cause, it's better if I leave it rest until it's healed. :( But it's almost better anyway, so I'll be in front of my tv again in no time. :D Until then, I got Planescape: Torment! :D
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Planescape: Torment kept me up last night.
It still keeps me up at night.
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It still keeps me up at night.
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Hahaha.
Yeah, it did it again to me last night. I got me a wisdom tattoo! Now I'm eager to buy more. Any time someone picks a fight with me, I run away and make Morte attack, once their attention is on him I come back and help attack. They don't target me again even if I hit them, so it allows us both to beat the crap out of others while they're missing Morte over and over again. I just got a new guy last night though and haven't done anything with him yet so my strategy *might* change. Drak'kon I think it was.
This game's pretty badass so far dude. Sept every time I play I regret how I did my point distribution in the beginning. Though I'm not completely torn since I made him well balanced which is far better than if I had made him combat ready.
I realized yesterday that I repeated myself a lot in my last post and probably made it difficult to follow. My apologies, I was too lazy to fix it. :P
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Dak'kon the githzerai is pretty awesome, one of the rare dual-class 2nd Edition characters. I think elves used to be the only thing that could dual-class in core 2E. Make sure to ask him about his past, he'll reveal more as the game progresses.
Oh and if you change classes and want to change back I think Dak'kon can change you back to fighter.
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Yeah, I changed to a thief, for the experience, then robbed some people (save, load, save, load) best I could to get some things I wanted. (Healing items, mostly, and one expensive item that I found out I couldn't sell cause it was stolen. Since I got it for free though, I didn't care. :P) Then I used that weapon training guy to change back to fighter. Free exp an items, what's not to love? But if Dak'kon can change me back right there and then, it'd be quicker. I'll check that out next time. I switch.
Doin' a lot of reading in this game. lol. Some games make all of the reading you have to do feel like labor. This isn't one of them.
I should also note that it's 2:54 in the morning and the *only* reason I am stopping now is because I have to work in the morning. Ha! But I have the next two days off... and my wrist is basically healed as far as I can tell. "evil laughter" But I'm definitely going to finish Planescape: Torment before I go back to the Xbox games I had been playing before fate (my wrist) intervened.
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Ooo, I almost forgot about this: The Gibberlings 3 Widescreen Mod (http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/)
I've tried it out and it's pretty nice. Basically it just unlocks higher resolution settings for old Infinity Engine games. I tried it on Planescape: Torment but that was an original copy, no idea if it's compatible with the GOG version. Maybe the GOG version already has high res options? I think the original was just 640x480.
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It may work better under different conditions, (I'm not suggesting that it's not the games fault) maybe try it on a separate HDD with XP on it? (assuming you have one or are able to easily set one up with it) I didn't want to suggest Vista, so I suggested XP. Although there is very likely many other factors that play into it, that may be one of the easier ones to try out. (unless you have other machines with the right specs at the ready) :P
XP partition? Are you kidding? I bought the game to run under the advertised requirements. My PC easily meets those. It runs fine DX9 mode but I bought it for DX10. Anyway I got a partial refund for it. I'm ok.
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XP partition? Are you kidding? I bought the game to run under the advertised requirements. My PC easily meets those. It runs fine DX9 mode but I bought it for DX10. Anyway I got a partial refund for it. I'm ok.
I wasn't talking about requirements. It was a suggestion to try to rule out any software conflicts. So no, I wasn't kidding. But you didn't mention the DX10 thing in the original post; I wouldn't have suggested XP in that case. Though I would personally use a different HDD, rather than a partition, but I already have mine set up with multiple HDD's with different OS's, hence my reasoning.
Well at least you got a refund, if only a partial one.
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Ooo, I almost forgot about this: The Gibberlings 3 Widescreen Mod (http://www.gibberlings3.net/widescreen/)
I've tried it out and it's pretty nice. Basically it just unlocks higher resolution settings for old Infinity Engine games. I tried it on Planescape: Torment but that was an original copy, no idea if it's compatible with the GOG version. Maybe the GOG version already has high res options? I think the original was just 640x480.
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I tried it. It works, but it is awkward. In Torment it shoves the tiny window into the top left corner until you're playing. While playing, many things are awkward and text is small and hard to read, but it fills the screen like it should. It also recommends you start a new game.
However, I found another mod that is meant to be coupled with this mod that solves a lot of the awkwardness.
http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=683
It centers the menu window and fills it in with original game images. It also changes around interfaces and whatnot so that they're better suited with a bigger screen.
It's much better with the two mods coupled together. However, there's still some awkwardness, and many things are still hard to read. (although an install option for the second mod increases font size for certain things, including dialogue, allowing you to read easier.)
Someone should have made an NWN mod of this game a long time ago. :P That would have been pretty sweet.
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I wasn't talking about requirements. It was a suggestion to try to rule out any software conflicts. So no, I wasn't kidding. But you didn't mention the DX10 thing in the original post; I wouldn't have suggested XP in that case. Though I would personally use a different HDD, rather than a partition, but I already have mine set up with multiple HDD's with different OS's, hence my reasoning.
Well at least you got a refund, if only a partial one.
Oh I get what your saying. I've check the forums on this issue. It's rampant and unresolved. Clearly the game is quite broken for most people. I'll suffer through DX9 when I get to playing. Or maybe I'll try DX10 as I just upgraded my computer over the weekend. I got a Core 2 Extreme for $250 on eBay. Seeing as it retails for $1000 new I thought I'd take this opportunity to upgrade to a quad core CPU. Promptly overclocked it from 3Ghz to 3.8Ghz. Easy as pie. This thing is sweet.
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Oh I get what your saying. I've check the forums on this issue. It's rampant and unresolved. Clearly the game is quite broken for most people. I'll suffer through DX9 when I get to playing. Or maybe I'll try DX10 as I just upgraded my computer over the weekend. I got a Core 2 Extreme for $250 on eBay. Seeing as it retails for $1000 new I thought I'd take this opportunity to upgrade to a quad core CPU. Promptly overclocked it from 3Ghz to 3.8Ghz. Easy as pie. This thing is sweet.
Ha, well if you're anything like me you won't play it for very long anyway. After awhile it'll probably get patched up a few times.
Sweet. I don't usually buy parts from eBay but I should start. As long as they're new what's the difference? Probably save myself a lot of money, actually.
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Ha, well if you're anything like me you won't play it for very long anyway. After awhile it'll probably get patched up a few times.
Sweet. I don't usually buy parts from eBay but I should start. As long as they're new what's the difference? Probably save myself a lot of money, actually.
Nah it's not a new part. But like I said, it's working like a charm so far. I'm sure they will finally fix it. Took me 2 years to finally play NWN2 and when I got around to it I was very happy I did. It was a very good game including the 3 expansions for it.
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Nah it's not a new part. But like I said, it's working like a charm so far. I'm sure they will finally fix it. Took me 2 years to finally play NWN2 and when I got around to it I was very happy I did. It was a very good game including the 3 expansions for it.
"3 expansions"?!?!? Are you counting the Mysteries of Westgate premium mod as the 3rd?
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"3 expansions"?!?!? Are you counting the Mysteries of Westgate premium mod as the 3rd?
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Woops I meant 2 expansions...ya ya..
I didn't get too far into MoW because DA:O came out and took my attention away.
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I didn't get too far into MoW because DA:O came out and took my attention away.
Excited for 2? Looks pretty badass.
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to NWN 2, yet. But I do plan on it sometime. I figured by now many of the bugs would be fixed.
I think I liked PS:T better without these mods. Everything is so little.
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I think I liked PS:T better without these mods. Everything is so little.
Yeah, that's one thing about PS:T is they took the opportunity to put a lot of detail into the low res textures so you lose some of the detail when you switch to hi res.
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Icewind Dale 2 is now on GOG
http://www.gog.com/en/news/new_release_icewind_dale_2_complete/
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Icewind Dale 2 is now on GOG
http://www.gog.com/en/news/new_release_icewind_dale_2_complete/
Ooh. Well, my wife wants to try the first one, I'm sure she'd want to play the second one as well. I'll probably buy them both, it's just a question of when. Since right now, I'm finishing PS:T before getting back to Borderlands (stopped when I got tendonitis) and then in December I *should* be getting Halo: Reach legendary edition.
I bought it for a whole $35, and it's worth $150. Brand new with free shipping too. The guy had 100% positive feedback, but only four sales (though they were on other video games, at least). It wasn't estimated to get here until Dec. 5 - Dec. 15 and he had three of them all "buy it now." The guy lives in Vietnam (which explains the shipping time). Kinda smells like it might be a scam, or he's a thief and stole it, therefore making money on it regardless since he didn't pay for it. But I figured I'd risk it, since the transaction was covered by eBay buyer protection and/or PayPal buyer protection anyway. So hopefully it's not a scam, if I can net Legendary for less than the cost of the game alone... that would be quite amazing.
Then there's also the chance that I may be getting another new 360 game soon too, so like I said... it's just a question of when. Although I already played and beat Baldur's Gate (I could swear there was two of them I played? Maybe an expansion? Can't remember), I am planning on buying it/them down the road too, replaying em' and adding them to my collection. :D
Oh, hey, check out this awesome waiting screen I've been getting for the last half an hour.
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PS:T : Dude... that was one bad-ass game. I can't believe it took so long to play through it.
Sucks that stats max out at 25 though... caused a few problems in the end. (especially with strength buffs reducing my str to 9)
Some guy made a bunch of Fix patches which balance and solve all forms of bugs and glitches throughout the game, so whenever I come back to this game I'm thinking of implementing it in my next playthrough.
Am I right in guessing there are multiple endings possible? After 'gaining' mortality my character moved on to fight in... the blood war... lol... yay. Is it always that ending or no?
Thanks 420, this was a good one.
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Am I right in guessing there are multiple endings possible? After 'gaining' mortality my character moved on to fight in... the blood war... lol... yay. Is it always that ending or no?
Thanks 420, this was a good one.
I think that is always the ending, though it may be based on alignment. But there are different ways to beat the final boss. My favorite is to have 24+ wisdom and just will him out of existence.
Did you get to do these cool things:
Were you able to get into the cube maze and find the rogue modron Nordom?
Get mazed by the Lady of Pain?
Have the priest of Aoskar banish the demon in the box then kill the demon in the vanished ruins of Curst?
How did you deal with the Pillar of Skulls?
How did you deal with the Alley of Dangerous Angles?
I think that's all the questions I have for now but I know there is some other cool stuff. Ooo, did you become a wizard at any time? What was your main class?
Icewind Dale is pretty fun but don't expect a storyline on the scale of Baldur's Gate. Icewind Dale was designed to be more of a hack and slash game, it was actually designed to compete with Diablo 2 (which is sad and hilarious). It's still a lot of fun but it's more about strategic combat than in-depth role play. The expansion Heart of Winter is good but it starts out by kicking your ass. Seriously, the first battle is the hardest one. Then there was the free DLC Trials of the Luremaster which was actually a lot of fun and free content that was better than the paid-for expansion.
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I think that is always the ending, though it may be based on alignment. But there are different ways to beat the final boss. My favorite is to have 24+ wisdom and just will him out of existence.
Did you get to do these cool things:
Were you able to get into the cube maze and find the rogue modron Nordom?
Get mazed by the Lady of Pain?
Have the priest of Aoskar banish the demon in the box then kill the demon in the vanished ruins of Curst?
How did you deal with the Pillar of Skulls?
How did you deal with the Alley of Dangerous Angles?
I think that's all the questions I have for now but I know there is some other cool stuff. Ooo, did you become a wizard at any time? What was your main class?
Icewind Dale is pretty fun but don't expect a storyline on the scale of Baldur's Gate. Icewind Dale was designed to be more of a hack and slash game, it was actually designed to compete with Diablo 2 (which is sad and hilarious). It's still a lot of fun but it's more about strategic combat than in-depth role play. The expansion Heart of Winter is good but it starts out by kicking your ass. Seriously, the first battle is the hardest one. Then there was the free DLC Trials of the Luremaster which was actually a lot of fun and free content that was better than the paid-for expansion.
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Ah, unfortunate. Yeah, I tested a few different endings, I did the will one, but ultimately decided to threaten him with killing myself using the torment blade you get the golem in the siege machine to make.
Yes, I ended the game with Nordom in my party, as soon as I found him I replaced Ignus with him. Left Ignus in the Clerks ward. I also used the cube for leveling. I was 34/35 in the end... can't remember which.
I did get the ragdoll and pray to it, but ultimately decided to reload after being mazed.
Yes. I was surprised to find it there later in the game... I wasn't expecting that. It was also very strong, whereas opening the box instead only pit you against a weak creature.
I made Morte stick around while talking with it, I asked it about my killer and it knew nothing, after that I just asked what I needed to know and gave them false information as to the whereabouts of that Fjuhl guy or whatever his name was. lol. I did this because he was a good guy, even if it was against his will to be good, and I favored neither law or chaos, so I lied when necessary and vowed when I would be willing to keep my promises. I did not give Morte up, and listened to it scream "Intruder Intruder" I then slaughtered everything that appeared in the previous area (which I had cleared before talking to the pillar). I can't remember any other specifics, so I presume the information I gave them was the answer you were looking for?
The alley... I chose to tell the Dabus that there was another Dabus slain inside the building, when he went in to investigate the alley shut him in, I then reversed the dabus changes and allowed it to split. Apart from that, I can't remember any other details, I think I asked a bunch of questions. lol.
I stuck with Fighter most of the game, I got some pretty sweet weapons. My primary was fists, I can't remember the name of the blades, and secondary I used the Justifier Mace... and it has a terrible memory, it seems. Even at the end of the game it didn't have anything new to say, except how it went nuts in the lower planes. I got to level 34 or 35. I also played as a mage and thief but only to achieve certain ends. I mainly was a thief so I could steal before I got Annah, and then I only became one to do certain things, such as invoke the tattoos from my severed arm for the experience (even if it didn't help my fighter class level). As for Mage, I wanted to be one very early on... but since I didn't get a chance to class change until the lower ward I no longer found it worthwhile. (I looked up what to say to Ravel about her forms, so I wouldn't screw up a relationship with Annah, that's when I found out I could have gotten Mebbeth to teach me. I suppose I was supposed to ask if she was a witch, I never did cause I didn't want to insult her. Dammit.) I mainly used mage to do the whole circle of zerthimon thing with Drak'kon.
I also found, that for some reason Nordom's Stealth Lens lagged the game considerably... it pissed me off. I tried changing options and even edited the ini file to no avail. Maybe it's the way it was scripted, or perhaps it doesn't agree with something on my computer. Most of the time I would travel with a different lens on and then switch in combat.
Aye? Well, I'll have to try it out anyhow. Although I love a good storyline, hack and slash can be sweet when done right.
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Spoiler warning for anyone who hasn't played through Planescape: Torment.
The alley... I chose to tell the Dabus that there was another Dabus slain inside the building, when he went in to investigate the alley shut him in, I then reversed the dabus changes and allowed it to split. Apart from that, I can't remember any other details, I think I asked a bunch of questions. lol.
You're thinking of the Alley of Lingering Sighs, I meant the alley where the church of Aoskar is, there are two rival gangs (good and evil) and Blackrose (neutral) and you can choose to side with one of those three.
that's when I found out I could have gotten Mebbeth to teach me. I suppose I was supposed to ask if she was a witch, I never did cause I didn't want to insult her. Dammit.) I mainly used mage to do the whole circle of zerthimon thing with Drak'kon.
I actually have a save game where I completed the Mortuary then went straight to Mebbeth and completed her 3 tasks to become a mage without talking to anyone else so it's sort of like you get play the game all the way through as a mage.
I like Dak'kon's story, though according to 3rd Edition the Githzerai city of Shra'kt'lor still exists. So PS:T either takes place in the distant future or the city was rebuilt sometime after it fell. I've had some lengthy discussions about this on the Planewalker Forums (http://www.planewalker.com/) with ripvanwormer (yes that is his real name).
I also like the fact that you can sort of piece together The Nameless One's past lives. Like, his evil incarnation was a wizard and Ignus was his apprentice who he used to punish by sticking Ignus's hand in fire. Or the insane, paranoid thief incarnation that lived in the sewer. Good stuff.
Weird about the lens causing lag though.
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EDIT: Oh and there is a pretty bad-ass melee weapon (Brimstone Hammer) in your personal maze if the Lady sends you there. I used it for most of the game when I was a fighter.
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Oh right. I came in from the south, and the bandits demanded money, I refused and slaughtered them all. The other half of the bandits weren't hostile since I approached from the other side, after talking with the leader a little bit and collecting on the death of the other, I found the Blackrose person and slaughtered the other gang. I was nuetral good throughout the entire game.
Yeah, I probably would have, but I didn't know. Next time I play through will probably be as a mage.
I had focused on Hammer skills in the beginning, but mastered fist weapons in the end. I had some pretty sweet fist blades, but I can't remember what they were called.
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Double post time... muahahaha...
I guess Ubisoft games are "up to" 50% off this weekend, so if you've got some games you're planning to buy from GOG, this might be a good time to do it... assuming they're by Ubisoft, of course.
The original Ghost Recon was badass. It's sequels.... not so much.
P.S. I just checked it out... apparently that "up to" I was skeptical about, means 50% on all "selected" games, which... is a lot of games... but it's otherwise 30% on any of the others.