Here's my current:
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Is that your brother?
Is that your brother?
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The woman next to me in that picture is my amazingly beautiful girlfriend, Jenna.
This is funny
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You're remedial, and that's funny too. :lol:
You're remedial, and that's funny too. :lol:
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As the old saying goes, Laughter is the best medicine.
The woman next to me in that picture is my amazingly beautiful girlfriend, Jenna.
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Whoaaa - I honestly thought for a moment it was like an eddie murphy movie, where you were playing multiple roles in shot! I was even about to make a joke about the wig before i realised it must be her real hair. Thank god I didn't - it would have been quite rude of me!
Anyone ever say you guys look alike? Kinda like a dog and its owner.
LOL nice one Talon xD
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Hmm, you are predictable after all, Talon.
I seen it as him trying to play my role on me to either possibly upset me and make me see how it "feels" or to make me understand some point and "teach" me by doing what I do to me. However, there's nothing to teach and this is the internet. Were he to try and teach me something as simple as the golden rule, that would come out in failure, and eye for an eye is a method I know too well to miss it. It's simple, if you think what I am doing is anything negative, you've just stooped to my level, and even beyond it in my opinion.
There is a slight difference between the situations however, while I am insulting people directly about stupid shit, or debating/arguing on a subject (usually the case) while the other participant resorts to flaming, you're attacking a loved one who's not here to defend themselves, I had thought about bringing it up and considering it a form of cowardice, but hey, I thought the simple replies showing the lack of affect was a little more entertaining. That, and I know her, nobody else here does, so why on earth would I let it bother me? That's like trying to insult me through bashing my mother, it just doesn't work. :lol:
I knew full well by posting the second image I was giving you more fuel, and that was intentional to see how far you'd take it. I caught on the second you decided to seize an opportunity where I posted something remotely personal, I'm not that blind. :)
To be honest, to the very first thing you said, my reply was going to be "Fuck you." But then I changed it because it seemed to make it look like I was mad about it. I also updated my girlfriend on every post in this thread, not because it matters, but because I wasn't going to let her be talked about behind her back while I knew about it. Don't be concerned though, she didn't take offense either, I told her the reason behind it. :D
And holy fuck, Tyrael, got enough goddamn icons!?
To be honest, to the very first thing you said, my reply was going to be "Fuck you."
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Im glad it had the desired effect. I also respect your self control in this instance.
Just remember that the insults you continually throw at people could be taken in exactly the same way.
For example, attacking tyrael every time he makes a post is tantamount to bullying. Maybe you should take that into consideration before you push that submit button.
God alone knows why you were made a moderator in what used to be a civil community - im actually ashamed that the godspire name is attached to some of the threads in this forum.
God alone knows why you were made a moderator in what used to be a civil community - im actually ashamed that the godspire name is attached to some of the threads in this forum.
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I guess that's flattering. I'd classify this board as civil. Maybe people have gotten a little bored at time though.
I guess that's flattering. I'd classify this board as civil. Maybe people have gotten a little bored at time though.
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Yes, you've done a good job - its just that certain members have either forgotten or just ognore part of the original GS philosophy.
The very reason we had exponentially timed bans on GS was to educate people to be good to one another - right down to the obligatory 'gf' even if the fight sucked ass.
It was this that attracted the right kind of people to GS, and made it what is was. If people didnt like it, they would either leave of their own accord and go to a lesser server, or just break the rules, in which case they would get temp bans until they accepted our way,
Personally, I dont think that randoming (to use the nwn term) should be allowed on this forum.
You may consider that a form of censorship, but I think its simply a case of keeping a sense of decorum that this forum has been severly lacking of late.
Yes, you've done a good job - its just that certain members have either forgotten or just ognore part of the original GS philosophy.
The very reason we had exponentially timed bans on GS was to educate people to be good to one another - right down to the obligatory 'gf' even if the fight sucked ass.
It was this that attracted the right kind of people to GS, and made it what is was. If people didnt like it, they would either leave of their own accord and go to a lesser server, or just break the rules, in which case they would get temp bans until they accepted our way,
Personally, I dont think that randoming (to use the nwn term) should be allowed on this forum.
You may consider that a form of censorship, but I think its simply a case of keeping a sense of decorum that this forum has been severly lacking of late.
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I agree people should respect each other here above all. However it's come to the point where I can not tell whether people are joking around with each other or are being plain mean. Since everyone here now each other very well, I pretty much default to the fun and games mentality when reading some of these things.
Im glad it had the desired effect. I also respect your self control in this instance.
Just remember that the insults you continually throw at people could be taken in exactly the same way.
For example, attacking tyrael every time he makes a post is tantamount to bullying. Maybe you should take that into consideration before you push that submit button.
God alone knows why you were made a moderator in what used to be a civil community - im actually ashamed that the godspire name is attached to some of the threads in this forum.
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How did it have the desired effect if it didn't get to me? The "Fuck You" part could have easily been followed with a ":lol:" because I was laughing when I watched the situation unravel.
Anyone can take anything personal you mean. Just my typing the word "fuck" offends people. So someone could take offense to the word "the" if they didn't like it. I don't know about you, but I think simply saying a word or telling someone they type like shit, is not on the same level as attacking their loved ones. They could both easily be taken personal, no doubt about that, but is one of them not more "lethal" than the other is? C'mon, give me a break. In most cases I'm not even insulting anyone, just arguing about something and then THEY resort to flaming me. If you look back at the GunZ debate and others around the board you will see that people have resorted to insulting me, before I have insulted them. In most cases.
Not only that, but 98% of the time I'm just fucking around and don't really care. I can understand Tyrael's posts, for instance, with little error. I just like to toy with him, because that's how I know him. In GS, in my eyes, he was the sentinel who randomed the MOST. Even if asked to stop it had little effect. He didn't seem to think anyone was being serious so he would continue to fuck around. At first I endulged him, then I just began ignoring it most of the time, because it was so often. It didn't really bother me. I only had thought it bad when he did it right in front of new people, and did it alot, as to me, it was setting a bad example. I even remember one time, I am almost certain it was Tyrael and someone else. Cletus maybe? Actually it happened on a few occasions. Where, basically the two got into a sent war and kept dazing, killing, and stoning eachother, relogging and then trying to get the other before they got him first. It was amusing at first, but it got out of hand. I even went to stop it at one point and it took a little effort before they would. I guess they felt the need to get the other, if they had got them last time, or some shit like that. It wasn't so bad that I would say he shouldn't have been a sentinel, just that he was just having fun in an often empty or lightly populated GS and I could understand that. Only reason I tried not to get involved too much or ended randoming eachother quicky by not randoming back, is because I was more about socializing and talking than actually playing. I liked being able to play as well, of course, but socializing was what I liked most and I just didn't get much out of randoming eachother like he and others seemed to. So basically, if you wonder whether or not I think of Tyrael as someone I can fuck around with, then the answer is yes. That is because this is how I know him and I honestly don't give a flying fuck how he types apart from when I really can't understand what he's saying, which does not happen too often. I only actually give it thought to begin with, because my mind likes to correct every single mistake it notices, and when it sees a post like that I can't help but notice it. I make plenty of run-ons so I'm not perfect either. I just mess with him because of what I said. It's how I know Tyrael. As for Elessar, for instance, I don't feel I've ever really gotten along with him and so when we argue, if he resorts to flaming me, it's not like I give a shit. lol.
If you think about it I'm probably the person who gets insulted most on this board, and am insulted far more than I insult others. I'm not sure where your logic comes into play in this instance, but your excuse for doing so yourself does not apply. The point is that I am still here even when a number of people insult me, and not just one individual, I still remain here; I do not take offense to it. This is before and after I have stated many things about it; before and after numerous arguments. I laugh at the attempt. I recognize it as sometimes joking around and sometimes not. Either way, it's still the internet.
Why was I made a moderator? When I was made one I had answered questions for Anheg and some other people who were having problems with things on the board or had questions, and I knew the answers because I have adminned a few IPB boards, and one currently, and know how they work as well as being familiar with alot of features on them most people don't usually use or take note of. Beyond that, I created helpful topics I thought people might be interested in and wanted to promote good discussion as well as good arguments and debates, and I wouldn't mind good flame battles either. I prefer there to be more POSTS. I don't care about post count. Which is why I can rant away in random ranting without a hitch. I personally see RR a little like I do Chaos on RoD. Spam and junk topics everywhere, and when arguments arise it doesn't matter much. Though I appreciate spam posts and topics I also like long posts and informative topics. That, and I active here every single day, quite a few times a day. Whenever I'm home and on my computer I'll check back often to see if anyone has posted anything. Why? Because I like forums, and this is what I do. I also love organization and things to be orderly, but sometimes I prefer chaos and disorder. Why I requested the computer section, the discussion section, and whatnot, is for obvious reasons. I just think there could be better places for certain things, and if I want to create a topic that I don't feel should be buried by spam topics, I can now create it in Discussion. I've made a topic about what threads people would want to see because I am all for posting and all for discussion, and I like coming here and seeing a bunch of posts that I can read and reply to. So the reason I think I was made a moderator was because of those things. Oh yeah, and my willingness to do some of the dirty work that Mo is too lazy to do. :lol:
Time to split this topic off into a "Is LM Going Downhill?" thread. Where are the moderators on this forum!?!?
I don't think the problem is that people are being intentionally mean to one another. Thoughtless? yes. Jerks? yes. Cruel? Sometimes (oh wait, I guess that is "intentionally mean").
The main problem is a lack of respect for people that we all feel we've known for a long time. Sort of like how a person can talk shit about their own mother but get upset when other people do it. I think we just take it for granted that civility should be implied because we've all been on GS together.
For instance, I never use emotes and this causes a lot of problems for me on various forums. Especially the CEP forum where I am generally considered the meanest, rudest member of the CEP because I don't preface my posts with 20 different smilies.
That said, HeLL, a moderator on this forum, has made it clear that he likes to try to rile people up when he is bored. In fact, I know of certain people that have squelched all of HeLL's posts because otherwise they would stop visiting this forum alltogether.
However, let me make it clear that I like petty arguments and I enjoy irritating people by inserting non sequiturs and going off on tangents in the middle of an otherwise coherent argument.
So, I guess what I'm saying is: Let's all be a lot more polite to each other you filthy, degenerate fuck heads!!!
-420
EDIT: It could also be that we are all a bit stir crazy because we haven't had a common enemy to jump on in awhile, like Bug Fixx, Nathan or Gwydion.
Depends. As a moderator I've only looked at duties dealing with organization and topics/posts. I don't moderate spam or rule-breaking. (Except for bots and shit that is completely obvious spam by someone who hasn't been here for very long. For example, if someone joined and made some random topic full of stupid shit. Though, if it were one of the regulars I'd likely do nothing about it.) The reason for this is because, before I was a Moderator censorship was removed, and people basically got away with saying anything and everything with no topics really moderated or anything. The only thing I seen being done was the splitting of topics from time to time when they had gotten really off-topic. So when I was made a moderator, I wasn't going to start attacking everyone's posts for spam or rule-breaking when none of the admins ever do, I wasn't going to do things I thought might be counter-active to the way Mo runs things, and I certaintly wasn't going to become a mod-nazi just because my view of running a forum is different. I was going to do things the way I've seen it done for quite some time now, because that seems to be the way Mo wants it, and I see it as the way Mo wants it, because that's the way Mo does it. If that doesn't make sense to you then go eat shit. I also noticed alot of the first things he had me doing were basically the things that he had been doing, and so if that's the way he wanted to run things, then I respect that. Like I said, I wasn't going to start doing a bunch of shit that none of the admins had been doing, unless I knew they weren't going to be counter-active to the way it has been run. If it was questionable, then I didn't do it. So basically I see myself as a moderator to keep things a little more organized and also because it would put me in the position that people could ask me questions thinking I would know the answers, and since I had the answers before then that would be entirely plausible. I just basically seen myself as still a regular member with the exceptions I noted. Why would I start enforcing rules that I haven't seen enforced in forever unless they were ones I've always seen enforced? (such as no warez) Simply because I am Mo's mod, this is his site, and I wouldn't want to use the power to do things he doesn't want done here. Now, if I repeat myself any more in this giant glob of words, I will go insane... again.
Intentionally mean? Yes. Almost never serious? Yes. :lol: ? Yes?
The lack of respect you could consider as an issue we had in GS while it was up as well, take note of the randoming thing I talked about above. I'm not pointing a finger at Tyrael though, alot of sentinels/DM's/Vanguards did it.
Start using smileys then, crackhead. :lol:
Nah, not really when I'm bored. I just say that, actually I do it whether I'm bored or not. Can't let a perfectly valid argument not exist! <_< Who? Throbble? Elessar? Nah, nevermind, I'm not concerned with who. If it were Throb, I've never seen myself as really getting along with her either, but I do like her, so I apologize. If it were Elessar he can kiss my ass. :lol: See, now, do I really have to say that I am kidding here? :rolleyes:
Oh, I know you do, 420. Maybe I could claim you were my influence and blame it on you. It's 420's fault everyone, see? :lol: No, look, they are fun, you acknowledge that. And I've seen you as just as, if not more, insulting than me on various occasions. At least, in my opinion. So what if you're not bashing another member, but attacking those common enemies or anyone else. Actually, when it came to bug fixx at least, I personally thought you were overdoing it and being overly mean. But, you know, I didn't say shit and played along because I felt that if I disagreed with you, alot of the other members would jump on my ass if you made some post to discredit mine, and you know it's true. But see, back then I actually cared. Now it is a different story. I feel I'm entitled to my opinion and I often say whatever I feel like saying even if I know people will gang up on me and I end up arguing one against two, or three, or four people or more. So yes, 420, I know exactly what you're talking about.
The common enemy thing isn't true, for me anyway, 420. I fuck around with others or argue because I enjoy it. I've done it here and I've done it on other boards. Such as one that I was an admin on for awhile to organize the board and clean things up for the creator, a guy who I bashed all the time, flamed to shit, and got into a million arguments with. He enjoyed them all, just like I did and he did not take offense, but even flamed and argued back. The same went with everyone else on that board. Except for the people who were so very stupid that they couldn't comprehend a sentence. For me, that common enemy thing has no validity, but for the rest of the forum, it might. If that's the case then I'm in an obviously good position for people to be making me become that substitute.
Now does anything else need to be said? Is my post too long? Eh, tough shit. I've written way longer posts than this. :lol:
Start using smileys then, crackhead.
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I'll compromise. [Insert Appropriate Emoticon Here.]
-420
I'll compromise. [Insert Appropriate Emoticon Here.]
-420
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:lol:
Don't think you've read my post just yet. I went over the entire thing like I do with alot of posts I make and editted things to make more sense and fix some run-ons. I prefer to give effort for things I want to do better. Though I do it alot more with longer posts than shorter posts, and I don't always do it. :D
In fact, I know of certain people that have squelched all of HeLL's posts because otherwise they would stop visiting this forum alltogether.
-420
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I generally stop paying attention to a thread once hell posts in it...
Although, to lighten up the mood a wee bit, I applied your technique for really comprehending HeLL's posts in this topic:
ty i [hynii]am shit. it a han[iw]d. its not nd.....
I wonder how that last bit will end...
-Elessar
I generally stop paying attention to a thread once hell posts in it...
Although, to lighten up the mood a wee bit, I applied your technique for really comprehending HeLL's posts in this topic:
ty i [hynii]am shit. it a han[iw]d. its not nd.....
I wonder how that last bit will end...
-Elessar
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you will see that people have resorted to insulting me, before I have insulted them. In most cases.
I rest my case. :lol:
I only read the first part of hell's looong post and just to say that hell has some reason, its true that i dont care about his comments about my english as he messes with me like i mess with him, i always keep it to the joke part (notice almost all my posts have smileys :P).
The part i dont really understand is, why should ppl take some comments from a person they dont even know so serious? (yes, i know some ppl do), i mean, its internet, everyone can say whatever they want or act in the way they want, and most of the bad mouth guys that like to insult and/or mess with others its mostly cos their life sucks (if they even have one, that is xD) or no1 pays attention to them in school/job, or they just have no friends and feel bad in some way, so they want to get attention insulting others and acting stupid, theyre overall just sad, so why some ppl even care about them? :o
(this part wasnt directed to you hell, this time :P, just to make that clear b4 you get the wrong idea and make another long ass post xD)
Its true i ramdomed other sents and friends, but there were never new players around, if there were was either that i knew him or that i didnt notice, not like there were much players i didnt know the last months >_<.
As for the time Cletus and me had that sent fight, you were the ONLY one on besides us, lol, then i think either mercy or hubba logged in and killed both of us. xD
Apart from all that, the ppl that cares about some insults on forums maybe they dont play online games or have a bad time on them xD, from the typical "you suck n00b" to relying on just plain insults and family related insults, besides like it happened to me a lot on gunz, lots of times after i learned good and fast bf (which really took some months), when you kill some ppl in a flash and then they cry like, "get a life noob" or stop hacking you noob ( when ive never hacked on any game) just because they couldnt keep and that pisses them off.
In conclusion, over internet, everything its better if you take most things as jokes xD
(i think thats the longest, or one of the longer posts i ever made >_<, i can already
see hell coming with his corrections :P)
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See, Tyrael's got the right idea! :lol:
Well, part of it is true anyhow, Tyrael. I am quite a sad individual, sad as in sorrow, not as in loser. Though that's probably true too! Ha! But I don't make myself feel better by insulting others, nor for attention. My "little miss piggy" keeps me quite happy and I get enough attention to satisfy one hundred people just from her. I knew it wasn't directed toward me, without you saying that anyhow. But clarification never hurts.
Indeed, I defended that viewpoint for you in my post already. I was just making a point.
I know, I remember. But I also remember you two seemingly starting to get annoyed with eachother about it, and it getting a little out of hand, that's why I tried to settle it down, without getting into it too.
I love GunZ partly for that reason. I can really piss some people off by kicking their ass, or doing certain things, and then they talk shit, and then I take it, joke about it, and then rub it in. Really gets on their nerves, ahahaha. :lol:
(You spelled everything wrong, bitch! :lol: )
People have been vulgar to one another for a very long time on GS. My example would be Tolar. But at the same time he did become less vulgar. I point this out in defense of "newer" generation of players starting this vulgarity.
Who's to blame for not monitoring and maintaining a level of civility? Maybe those in the position of this responsibility should be repremanded themselves or removed.
Is it too late to get it back?
I think not having GS up and not being in the server we've lost a sense of respest for those who have started this community. Not fighting it out on the server has made us equals on the forums
Indeed. It's not new at all.
The blame game's always the same and it's always lame.
Get what back? The conflicts that have arisen here between certain people have been here the entire time even when GS was active.
Equals? We're all humans, we were equals at the start.
Not to jump into a viper's nest with both feet, but I gotta say that Talon remarking on other folks' incivility is either hilarious self-parody or remarkable hypocrisy. I mean, dude, you photoshopped Miss Piggy onto Hell's girlfriend's face! Regardless of her looking like Hell or having the MySpace Angles (neither of which were particularly "uncivil" comments), that's just harsh, and was bound to piss Hell off. While I'd always agree that Hell is vitriolic, I have to award some of the credit to Talon for being uncivil, and for inspiring some incivility.
As I said, he stooped to my level and beyond. That is no method for teaching anything.
Let's not get into a "who was the first person to insult who" argument. Then we'd be no better than the world governments and religions.
Previous comment about the blame game stands.
HeLL can you record your posts and release an audio file please??
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I was waiting for the CliffsNotes version.
-420
I was waiting for the CliffsNotes version.
-420
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I'm gonna start posting my old school papers, see how he likes those. Maybe I'll start with my grade 11 essay on time travel.
What's wrong with HMH's posts? Even though they're long, the sentence structure makes it very easy to read. And the posts aren't like some boring old school book either.
I'm not trying to be a kiss-ass or anything. It's just... I'm sure you guys aren't to busy to read throught his posts. Show some respect... Even if you think he's an asshole.
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Thanks, Chard.
Though I realize sometimes my posts can be a little confusing when there are too many commas and I phrase them a little differently. :lol: That's because I tend to automatically put a comma wherever I pause. Also, I'll type it as I'm thinking it, so it's almost like my thoughts put into text, except that my accent causes me to leave out words that truly aren't necessary for someone to understand what I'm saying. Except in text the words I leave out actually do help. That's why I go back and edit my posts all the time. I correct mistakes for myself, and for the reader. That long post should make sense and be easy to read. I think it was at first, but now there should not be a problem at all. :)
I'm sure you guys aren't to busy to read throught his posts
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I took 46 screenshots yesterday of CEP creatures, cropped and resized them, labeled them then linked each image up to its original hak pack location on NWVault.
We lost our master list of content so I have to search for all the original artists, the location of the creature in the appearance.2da, the location of the blueprint and the name of the original model.
And that was just one letter of the alphabet.
So, you tell me if I'm too busy.
-420
He's Re-tar-red.
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What on earth does that mean?
(If you think it sounds retarded then.. *hint hint* *nudge nudge* get it now?) Bwahahahaha!
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A Simpsons quote for every occasion:
"If you have to explain it, it wasn't good chief." -Lou
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"Every instance" and "always" implies an absolute. There is no way that statement can ever be proven true.
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At this point it would probably be easier since the dog would be more receptive to new ideas.
Don't tell me you're too incapable to grasp a concept as simple as that.
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I could say the exact same thing about you but I think my post is self-explanatory enough.
-420
You guys didn't change a bit.
Good to see everyone is healthy.
-Mel
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w00t w00t mel is back!!!!
Good to see you too mel!!!
WELCOME BACK :drinks:
"Every instance" and "always" implies an absolute. There is no way that statement can ever be proven true.
Again, "nothing" and "everything" imply an impossible, unprovable absolute.
At this point it would probably be easier since the dog would be more receptive to new ideas.
I could say the exact same thing about you but I think my post is self-explanatory enough.
-420
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Nothing can be proven true or false. Perception is based on the individual. No implication, only your assumption.
Nothing is proveable, once again. You want to get into perception? Everything exists at the same time that it doesn't. Theories are opinions, opinions are points, facts are false, false things are true. You don't know anything until you know nothing. Arguments are impossible just like everything that is possible is impossible.
Compared to whom? Everyone? I suppose that's your opinion, though I know you mean me, it doesn't matter. As you reject mine as easily as I accept yours without you seeming to understand that I accept yours, but present the material in a form of objection to it, due to my thought that any thought is nothing but a thought, as well as everything else beyond a thought, and therefore cannot and can be understood.
Of course, as a human I feel I should at least try to grasp what I consider this to be "true chaos" with a form of "looking glass" to see some sort of reality. Otherwise, I am fairly certain I could not be sane. So, I make my own opinions as to right and wrong, true or false, despite believing on the exterior, that everything is both true and false and neither.
Sure you could say the exact same thing as me, you have that right, it makes sense to me why you'd think that way, and think that I don't think similiar due to my presenting contradicting material, that is also presented as a disagreement with your own. However, I've never seen a rule anywhere that says you cannot raise points or make arguments against statements/opinions you agree with, and I have especially not heard any rule saying you cannot raise points or make arguments against statements/opinions you agree with as well as disagree with.
At this point it would probably be easier since the dog would be more receptive to new ideas.
Just as you said previously, 420, I could say the exact same thing about you. Assuming that the implication is, in theory, that the statement is making a comparison to me. You may not think I am receptive to new ideas, although I would say this is not true (in non-technical terms), I would also say that you are not for the same reasons, then.
Of course it's different. 420 sees it as an argument, I see it as a misunderstanding. Then again, I see many commonly perceived "arguments" as misunderstandings.
Throbble is right, it isn't different!
Well, yeah it is. But no it's not!
I purposely started this "argument."
On another note: Hello Mel!
In other news... I just got engaged. =D
I think I've summed up my nothingness/everythingness? so I shall allow you to further decide whether or not everything I've said is a joke, or has a deeper meaning. Surely you can handle that? Or perhaps you don't care, that's fine too.
On another note: Hello Mel!
In other news... I just got engaged. =D
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As usual I scanned through your long post and noticed two noteworthy items.
1) Hi Mel
2) Congrats on your engagement ! :drinks:
As usual I scanned through your long post and noticed two noteworthy items.
2) Congrats on your engagement ! :drinks:
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Thanks! :D
Nothing can be proven true or false.
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Merriam-Webster disagrees with you. Definition of Prove (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/prove)
1 archaic : to learn or find out by experience
2 a : to test the truth, validity, or genuineness of <the exception proves the rule> <prove a will at probate> b : to test the worth or quality of; specifically : to compare against a standard -- sometimes used with up or out c : to check the correctness of (as an arithmetic result)
3 a : to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic) <prove a theorem> <the charges were never proved in court> b : to demonstrate as having a particular quality or worth <the vaccine has been proven effective after years of tests> <proved herself a great actress>
4 : to show (oneself) to be worthy or capable <eager to prove myself in the new job>
intransitive verb : to turn out especially after trial or test <the new drug proved effective>
usage The past participle proven, originally the past participle of preve, a Middle English variant of prove that survived in Scotland, has gradually worked its way into standard English over the past three and a half centuries.
Oh, AND from the Definition of argument (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/argument)
2 a : a reason given in proof or rebuttal
Perhaps all those "misunderstandings" were actually arguments after all.
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Perhaps all those "misunderstandings" were actually arguments after all.
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Many (maybe most) arguments are spawn of misunderstanding, same with wars, I just prefer to use the term misunderstanding when it's the cause for argument. :D
1 archaic : to learn or find out by experience
2 a : to test the truth, validity, or genuineness of <the exception proves the rule> <prove a will at probate> b : to test the worth or quality of; specifically : to compare against a standard -- sometimes used with up or out c : to check the correctness of (as an arithmetic result)
3 a : to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic) <prove a theorem> <the charges were never proved in court> b : to demonstrate as having a particular quality or worth <the vaccine has been proven effective after years of tests> <proved herself a great actress>
4 : to show (oneself) to be worthy or capable <eager to prove myself in the new job>
intransitive verb : to turn out especially after trial or test <the new drug proved effective>
usage The past participle proven, originally the past participle of preve, a Middle English variant of prove that survived in Scotland, has gradually worked its way into standard English over the past three and a half centuries.
Are you sure?
Proof is simply a lackey of persuasion. It's a tool to persuade others in believing a certain thing. Or, in a different manner, is like everything else. If you see something, you often believe it to be true, especially when many others see the same thing and believe it. That is proof. Seeing is believing, but sight can be deceiving. Based on evidence, you make your own analysis and assumption, this is your perception. Point of view is perception. A standard point of view is one that is: Common; Shared by the majority of people. Truth is commonly believed to be common belief, and I do not agree with that belief.
Are you sure?
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Dude, if you have a problem with the definition of "prove" then take it up with Merrriam-Webster (http://www.m-w.com/). I'm sure they'd love to hear your nonsensical ravings.
That's re-tar-ded.
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No, that's Re-tar-red.
He's Re-tar-red.
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Dude, if you have a problem with the definition of "prove"
No, that's Re-tar-red.
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I didn't say I had a problem with their definition of it, on the contrary, if it weren't for humans trying to make restrictions, laws, and order, we would be fucked... then again, half of us might not be lost to false reality... but... that would either mean that half would be insane, or somewhat like myself.
It's up to you to decide which is worse! Ahah!
It's not that my "ravings" are non-sensical, it's just that they are too sensible for you to make sense of, that's all. Though if I were to be technical, that's true and false at the same time, and there's other aspects as well, but I won't dwell on it.
Yes, thanks for clearing that up. He's still learning to read.
It's not that my "ravings" are non-sensical, it's just that they are too sensible for you to make sense of, that's all.
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Are you saying that I'm too old and too crypto-fascist to receive what you are trying to transmit?
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Are you saying that I'm too old and too crypto-fascist to receive what you are trying to transmit?
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Is that what you want to hear?
I didn't say I had a problem with their definition of it, on the contrary, if it weren't for humans trying to make restrictions, laws, and order, we would be fucked... then again, half of us might not be lost to false reality... but... that would either mean that half would be insane, or somewhat like myself.
It's up to you to decide which is worse! Ahah!
It's not that my "ravings" are non-sensical, it's just that they are too sensible for you to make sense of, that's all. Though if I were to be technical, that's true and false at the same time, and there's other aspects as well, but I won't dwell on it.
Yes, thanks for clearing that up. He's still learning to read.
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The insain dont know there insain, they think they are getting sainer.
Is that what you want to hear?
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Are we playing the question game now?
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Are we playing the question game now?
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Is that what you want to do? :lol:
@Xen: Insain? :lol: