uhh i still own DE and artist if u want to start a clan please start ur own. thank you have a good night. de will be back
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w00t
uhh i still own DE and artist if u want to start a clan please start ur own. thank you have a good night. de will be back
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No offense, but such a great job your doing...
Shade, leader of DE, Dead Exaltation... I dont mean to be offensive but it's the truth, non-active means dead... dead means if someone takes the name... ur sol...
Besides your better off this way... use your head, once u leave nwn to nwn 2, and DE in nwn 1 is dead, the name is up 4 grabs... so this way if you have someone controlling it in nwn 1, and u make one in nwn 2, u need not worry about the name being taken... but whatever... I dont know shit...
Honeslty, I say this because I am sick of seeing all these non-active, non-updated, clans, guilds, forums, bugs, etc... Many of these things are just small things, but the same old shit is just getting so boring... seeing a still active? post be there for 4 months... no other posts... seeing non updated rosters... perhaps people dont have time to do it? but I sure would if I had the authority... so what if it's a bunch of small things, all these small things add up into a much bigger thing, perhaps I am overreacting but I have held my tongue for months now... and I just cant help but say it now... I am a very organized person, because of that, these things annoy me very badly, sorry for that...
No offense, but such a great job your doing...
Shade, leader of DE, Dead Exaltation... I dont mean to be offensive but it's the truth, non-active means dead... dead means if someone takes the name... ur sol...
Besides your better off this way... use your head, once u leave nwn to nwn 2, and DE in nwn 1 is dead, the name is up 4 grabs... so this way if you have someone controlling it in nwn 1, and u make one in nwn 2, u need not worry about the name being taken... but whatever... I dont know shit...
Honeslty, I say this because I am sick of seeing all these non-active, non-updated, clans, guilds, forums, bugs, etc... Many of these things are just small things, but the same old shit is just getting so boring... seeing a still active? post be there for 4 months... no other posts... seeing non updated rosters... perhaps people dont have time to do it? but I sure would if I had the authority... so what if it's a bunch of small things, all these small things add up into a much bigger thing, perhaps I am overreacting but I have held my tongue for months now... and I just cant help but say it now... I am a very organized person, because of that, these things annoy me very badly, sorry for that...
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hehe don't worry about it, it always bugged me that our roster was almost never updated, much more that no one else had their rosters updated... i guess the db makes it easier, but it is nice to have a fairly up-to-date roster
Well, Artist can take over DE if he wants. If you were on GodSpire in the old old days, some clans split and fought. Like Doriath had a split and the Undead came out of that. And well, lol, Shade is inactive. If Artist wants to get the guild pumping, he can. More power to ya, but beware the Marauders will not go easy. B)
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erm... curious but... who says you have the right to say that artist can do it, shade's already said quite clearly that she still owns it and she does get on, not as much as she did a year ago or so perhaps, but still, she does get on
-Elessar
hehe don't worry about it, it always bugged me that our roster was almost never updated, much more that no one else had their rosters updated... i guess the db makes it easier, but it is nice to have a fairly up-to-date roster
erm... curious but... who says you have the right to say that artist can do it, shade's already said quite clearly that she still owns it and she does get on, not as much as she did a year ago or so perhaps, but still, she does get on
-Elessar
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Shade is almost as inactive as Nem was. :rolleyes:
I told her from the start that running DE was not going to be an easy ride, she didn't listen.
IMO you can't run a clan if you're not there.
Shade is almost as inactive as Nem was. :rolleyes:
I told her from the start that running DE was not going to be an easy ride, she didn't listen.
IMO you can't run a clan if you're not there.
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Exactly, that's my point, and frankly, I am impressed at the job Mercy is doing with the Marauders, it is just that much MORE active now, which along with Doriath, is the only active clan I see. I personally dont call 3 people a clan, especially if the number is shrinking not inreasing, maybe a small group of friends... but not a clan. Only 1 clan is like that, and has the right to be, and that is BBDC, because they will never accept new members, sure you can consider the clan dead, but the players arent, and they still use the tag. It is more of a guild anyway, it's members are in or can join clans, it is just the memory of it...
DE is dead... err for now...
Anheg and Mercy do a great job, and the reason for that, is because they actually DO their job.
i still don't see why some of you people are giving the impression that it is alright for someoen else to take over DE when it's clearl not dead as members are still in existence... but w/e... i also don't see why you seem to think that shade should be on a lot more because i see her on a good amount of time, even if you don't, sorta like some gases, just cuz you can't see it, doesn't mean its not there... anywho, we still exist :) period
-Elessar
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WoW seems like an okay game, but i wouldnt consider having to pay for it monthly or watnot to play it
I check the GodSpire database site a lot and I never see her on it =P you either.
to be fair some of the *cough* DM's are slacking a bit too ;)
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once again- just because you don't see her doesn't mean she isn't there. and i'm not nescessarily talking about on GodSpire.
-Elessar
My esteemed colleagues Hell, BzK and Mercy speak the truth.
If the leader of a clan is inactive then the clan leadership is up for grabs (this is why Mercy became leader of Marauders). What this means is as follows, Artist can self proclaim himself leader of DE, no problem with that, his only difficulty in doing so is to get the other DE (how ever many are left) to follow him. He seems to have half the members behind him, which is more than enough to start recruiting on his own. After he's recruited enough he can just kill the old members with his new army, effectively kicking them out of the clan.
I care about who is active, if Artist gathers a following for DE then it shall be reflected on GodSpire. If Shade and Elessar wish to do something about it, there is only one place for them to be, GodSpire.
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*wonders vaguely where the strange aura of favoritism seems to be coming from...*
Yes, but we have already established the fact that Shade is not inactive, and if that is not enough for you I will take responsibilities of leader/councilmember or whatever you want to call it, as I have been active recently. I will also think that as this is not your clan, Mo, you have no authoritative power over the goings on within it. If Artist wishes to lead a clan of his own, it will be one of his own creation. I would have thought that the Diary I published might have given the thought to some of you, atleast, that I intended to pick up this clan and build it back up. It is both the intentions of Shade and me to do so, and since "half the members" as you put it, are Nemo and himself according to the first post, there is not much to that due to the fact that the "other half" would be Shade and myself.
But thing that really bugs me now is the fact that Artist has said that there is no reason for him to take it over anymore, so why is this argument still going?
-Elessar
I would have thought that the Diary I published might have given the thought to some of you, atleast, that I intended to pick up this clan and build it back up. It is both the intentions of Shade and me to do so
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Intentions are great.....Let's see some actions
Great to noe that the clan still partly alive..
(more then the 3 i usually see :D )
If shade is still the leader, then i haf no reason or watsoever to take over
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While I have to admit that the high finance power brokerage over a GodSpire clan's leadership is fascinating, I'm pretty sure it ended quite a few posts back with the above statement by this thread's creator.
Anyway, I think everyone is missing the big picture here, "Divine Exhaltation" isn't a very good name for a clan.
Wasn't there a thread about that a long time ago? I mean, what is it exhalting? There's no subject dammit! Argh, now I'm in an even fouler mood! Why not Divinely Exhalted Angels? or the Divinely Salted Penuts? or the Divine Explosion?
Forget this, I'm out of here!
-420
While I have to admit that the high finance power brokerage over a GodSpire clan's leadership is fascinating, I'm pretty sure it ended quite a few posts back with the above statement by this thread's creator.
Anyway, I think everyone is missing the big picture here, "Divine Exhaltation" isn't a very good name for a clan.
Wasn't there a thread about that a long time ago? I mean, what is it exhalting? There's no subject dammit! Argh, now I'm in an even fouler mood! Why not Divinely Exhalted Angels? or the Divinely Salted Penuts? or the Divine Explosion?
Forget this, I'm out of here!
-420
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With all due respect, 420, I like Divine Exaltation, thank you very much.
-Elessar
i should only be at godspire?????? wow godspire has changed alot.... DE is a clan not JUST related to Godspire. We have a other server thats for DE i am still currently a part of DE and i am currently STILL active. You care about only who is active... ur gettin really cruel now..
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shade is right, incase you forgot, i first created RUNE which is now Archepelago, for the soul purpose of creating a home for Divine Exaltation, it was a sort of homeland, where a whole land of mystery and adventure lay if you just broaden yourselves to it... why do you think i'm working harder on archepelago now? i'm trying to make it like it was intended to be- a home
one another note: sents- when Talon ran godspire becoming a sent was something of a vision, it was meant to be an honor... now, if someone's a sent here... it mostly means they've played for a long long time.. a lot of the times, i really feel like sending in some sort of complaint towards some of the sents... and the dms even, but i held back, knowing that it would never do any good... face it, mo, you said it yourself- you like the people who are most active, and really, you favor them too
-Elessar
With all due respect, 420, I like Divine Exaltation, thank you very much.
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Well, that wasn't a very funny response to my obviously absurd post. You need to learn to lighten up a little Elessar. Life 'tis but a wheeze mate!
Anyway, I need to make two corrections:
1. I can't spell "exaltation"
2. Throbble pointed out that the word "exaltation" is indeed a noun and therefore it is perfectly fine to modify that noun with an adjective for the purposes of naming a clan.
So, there you have it! Stay tuned for more inconclusive resolutions from the imagination factory!
-420
P.S. How about "Divine Excavation"?
face it, mo, you said it yourself- you like the people who are most active, and really, you favor them too
-Elessar
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Umm yes. I sure do favor them more. Becoming a sent is an honor. It only makes sense for the most active players to become sents. They need to be around often.
I've always been in charge of the sents even while Talon was hosting. There was only a two month period between Elros and Talon while I was away that Taarna made all the Marauders sents. I cleaned all that up and I must say the Sents have all been very good. If you have any complaints about the Sents by all means post your concerns.
I'm not being cruel Shade, but if there's someone out there who actually wants to do something with DR before NWN2 then you might want to let them.
That's what Marauders have always done.
things need to go back to way it was when i first set foot on GodSpire....when everyone was nice
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Things change deal with it
Gin Lighten up
Artist had full right to make an attempt at leader
Artist SHOULD make his own clan to that Godspire can have more than 2
Non-DE members shouldnt have a say in the clans bickering or non- bickering over the leader
Dont complain about people (the sents) then not back it up
I appreciate 420s attepmt at humor
Anheg and Mercy do a great job, and the reason for that, is because they actually DO their job.
Why thank you Hell.
Things change deal with it
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perhaps u don't understand; i see the change and i don't like it-i begin to see the greed and corruption that is human nature.....
Umm yes. I sure do favor them more. Becoming a sent is an honor. It only makes sense for the most active players to become sents. They need to be around often.
I've always been in charge of the sents even while Talon was hosting. There was only a two month period between Elros and Talon while I was away that Taarna made all the Marauders sents. I cleaned all that up and I must say the Sents have all been very good. If you have any complaints about the Sents by all means post your concerns.
I'm not being cruel Shade, but if there's someone out there who actually wants to do something with DR before NWN2 then you might want to let them.
That's what Marauders have always done.
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No, some of the sents I see when I go one destroy the honor I once saw in someone becoming a sent. And nearly all the marauders now are sents, you favor them more than necessary, I think. If you really want to know, probably one of the best sents I'd ever seen was Mel, and if you didn't realize, from my stand-point, she got fed-up with you and left.
Another thing- you are being cruel to her. I was talking to her on msn last night and it upset her the way you were showing such outright favoritism to them, just because they manage to get on more than her, and for other reasons as well, I'm sure. And just because the Marauders are run one way, doesn't mean all clans are run that way.
active means active on GodSpire... :mellow:
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That's your oppinion, because I believe we already stated that DE doesn't just belong to Godspire, so she doesn't have to be active there to be active, alright? I said it before and I'll say it again: Just because you don't see her, doesn't mean she's not there.
perhaps u don't understand; i see the change and i don't like it-i begin to see the greed and corruption that is human nature.....
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My thoughts as well, Khad... sadly, my thoughts as well...
-Elessar
Why do I have a feeling Elessar is going to end up like the Antes?
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And how did the antes ended up??
No, some of the sents I see when I go one destroy the honor I once saw in someone becoming a sent. And nearly all the marauders now are sents, you favor them more than necessary, I think. If you really want to know, probably one of the best sents I'd ever seen was Mel, and if you didn't realize, from my stand-point, she got fed-up with you and left.
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There's actually about an even distribution of Marauders and Doriath in the Sentinels.
I am quite aware that Mel was one of the best sents. She Aiden and Tolar were the first Vanguards.
And how did the antes ended up??
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They decide they dont like Godspire. They build their own Modual. They never return. I used to like to talk to Gwy, but lately, he has as much respect from me as the newb in the corner casting ice storm on himself because it looks cool.
There's actually about an even distribution of Marauders and Doriath in the Sentinels
I never noticed but that is ture. Doriath actualy has the same amount as the Marauders when you dont count the Vanguards and DMs. 5 to 5 (Roncescal [Bartomir] has recently retired from NWN)
Doriath- Anheg, Delly, Brior, Ryu, and Jimbo
Marauders- Viper, Shadow Fury, Mav, Hell, and Tyr.
Elessar, I have no problem with you, but look. From the times spent online.
Total time spent online by players since April 22nd, 2005
Lord Elessar_Archepelago 6.449
Almost 6 and a half hours in 70 days. In all honesty how do you know who deserves it or not??
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I can't get that bloody thing to work :/
how do you do it? lol
as for going like the antes did, no, i don't think i will =P
Elessar, I have no problem with you, but look. From the times spent online.
Total time spent online by players since April 22nd, 2005
Lord Elessar_Archepelago 6.449
Almost 6 and a half hours in 70 days. In all honesty how do you know who deserves it or not??
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look, i've been busy playing on gw, but i *had* recently been spending more time on GodSpire, alright?
Then I will put it plain and simple. State that DE is no longer a GodSpire clan. Because you are posting this in a GodSpire forum, not archeowhatsit. I enjoy all your companies. (you people lol) But you guys obviously dont understand a clan heirarchy. And Shade says she has a life to worry about, and from what I hear that life must be GW. So just like Nem, who left nwn for GW, and other reasons I took over Marauders. No one asked me, I said it is mine, and I took it. And about Mel, I like Mel, nice person good sent and good dm overall, but Mel didnt leave bc Mel was fed up, Mel left bc Mel was mad that Mel got removed as a dm. (Sorry for all the Mel's but Im not going to put her, and to be nice Im not going to put him.) And Anheg, As I told NeMo last night, I know what I say doesnt matter, but its my opinion and I will tell how I feel. Everyone knows me for that, and thats not going to change :). If any of you dont like it, then whatever lol, I could give a shit. "Arguing over the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded."
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heirarchy brings about royalty(ex. king, queen w/absolute rule...) which de never was. there was a leader with a council who had almost as much power and advised the leader or just a council which made decisions together, not at all a heirarchy
as for mel, mel prob was a bit fed up, and you would be too if you were removed as dm... i would also like to point out that i did not see a ton of respect towards mel from mo.... "he speaks in riddles".. honestly, mel did not speak in riddles, even if you coulnd't understand her mo
-Elessar
heheh well if they weren't riddles...... :huh:
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she didn't
so what you are saieng or sayieng...i never know how to write that word...anyway so the antes builded their own module, world (whatever) so that makes them all well not respected anymore or what you mean?? what's wrong with making your own module and playieng on it?
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lol "saying"
Read more carefully. The thing I was hopeing that people would remember is that big long thing about Gwy and how he didnt like how GOdspire was turning out. They went their own way because of it. Doriath has their own modual, but we remain part of Godspire because we originated there and we like it there. I only brought up the Antes because of how they turned out (please refer to my above post) and I was wondering if Gin and the future DE were going to migrate permantenly. Razor, if that doesnt clear it up then dont post again because I didnt mean to be offencive but it is so very ture.
And Anheg, As I told NeMo last night, I know what I say doesnt matter, but its my opinion and I will tell how I feel. Everyone knows me for that, and thats not going to change . If any of you dont like it, then whatever lol, I could give a shit
What did I say to make you say that?
And Gin, I agree that the Sents/Vanguards/DMs consist almost completely of 2 clans but BzK is right. Being a part of the Sentinels is an honor, but I, and you should at least eventualy, take more pride out of being the leader of a successful clan.
lol "saying"
Read more carefully. The thing I was hopeing that people would remember is that big long thing about Gwy and how he didnt like how GOdspire was turning out. They went their own way because of it. Doriath has their own modual, but we remain part of Godspire because we originated there and we like it there. I only brought up the Antes because of how they turned out (please refer to my above post) and I was wondering if Gin and the future DE were going to migrate permantenly. Razor, if that doesnt clear it up then dont post again because I didnt mean to be offencive but it is so very ture.
And Anheg, As I told NeMo last night, I know what I say doesnt matter, but its my opinion and I will tell how I feel. Everyone knows me for that, and thats not going to change . If any of you dont like it, then whatever lol, I could give a shit
What did I say to make you say that?
And Gin, I agree that the Sents/Vanguards/DMs consist almost completely of 2 clans but BzK is right. Being a part of the Sentinels is an honor, but I, and you should at least eventualy, take more pride out of being the leader of a successful clan.
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You said "Non-DE members shouldnt have a say in the clans bickering or non- bickering over the leader"
Thats what I was talking about. I am just telling Shade and Elessar that they can take over if they want.
And about Mo favoring people, ofcourse he would. Would you favor someone who didnt play on your server at all, or barely compared to people who were dedicated? It makes perfect sense that he favors these people. I agree with Mo 100% and everyone knows I like to disagree lol.
Merc u cant say that they can take over if they want no one can unless the members want it. and my life isnt GW as i dont play that a whole lot either and when i do guess what??? Im playing with people from godspire. Whats the big deal of ME keeping DE artist long while ago said he had no need to take over now and well so far i dont see the other members complaining. I just wish artist would've helped in the past then instead of now. If nemo, artist and gin really want to get it going again, i'll start. But keep in mind its not going to be as powerful as its going to be. I dont need to hear anymore comments on this matter unless its Nemo, artist or gin. and dont expect me to be on 24/7 but now thats its summer i can play for a while each day if i dont work. No one cared about the future of DE not even my friends so closing it untill nwn2 seemed like a good idea. Im happy i can start it up again aslong as i get support from the members not just 1.
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I can say whatever I want, what they do is different thing. But when I see you on GW and not on nwn. I figure thats you life, and when people tell me your on GW all the time. I dont really care what you do, but if the DE members, which the ones I see are Artist and NeMo want to restart the 'dead' clan then I will support them until they are strong enough to destroy. If you have something against clan members wanting to restart their clan then maybe you should be more active around them, or give up the clan. Its a long time till nwn 2 comes out. But Im done posting on this topic.
I can say whatever I want, what they do is different thing. But when I see you on GW and not on nwn. I figure thats you life, and when people tell me your on GW all the time. I dont really care what you do, but if the DE members, which the ones I see are Artist and NeMo want to restart the 'dead' clan then I will support them until they are strong enough to destroy. If you have something against clan members wanting to restart their clan then maybe you should be more active around them, or give up the clan. Its a long time till nwn 2 comes out. But Im done posting on this topic.
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just curious but,(and i know someone's going to yell at me for no apparent reason cuz i say this) who the hell said shade was on gw ALL the time... just cuz she's on it doesnt mean its her life and its a stupid asumption to make, alright?
later-Elessar
Didnt i just say i was goin to restart it if thats what they wanted to do????? nothing i ever said was against doing so. This topic should be finished.
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Elessar and Shade you are both Moderators for the DE forum