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Random Ranting / Re: South Park vs. Revolution Muslim
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:09:17 PM »
I've been trying to talk about what's appropriate not power struggles which is what I mean by taking it out of context.
I encourage you to play out a scenario where there was a press release with the creators of South Park saying 'Hey you know what maybe we'll just let this blow over for a while and release it later (on a DVD or something) because it's important to a lot of people not because we're afraid of attacks but it's a cartoon...'
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Not at all, if you respond to force by giving in to it's demands, you're submitting yourself to more of it.Revolutions are backlashes of force. In this South Park/Muslim Revolution instance no force has been exerted.
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It is impossible to respect everyone let alone everyone's beliefs.I'm not sure you even read what I wrote here it is again: ...South Park at a moral high ground with more people than expressing a right to appease a smaller group.
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So you're saying it's okay to threaten someone just as long as you don't disrespect their beliefs?I had to come back to this quote. I have no idea where you got this from but my answer: No, I think threats are a rash emotional reaction and sometimes it's ok to disrespect someone's beliefs (immediate social level etc).
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While it is true that enforcement is made to respond to violence and must increase it's ability to do so when the amount of violence increases in turn, it is not true that our freedoms need be restricted as a result of violence.We agree here.
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The problem with your logic is that you're saying it should be stopped at the level of the instigator and not at the level of the law-breaker.Again you're saying "stopped" I advocate practicing restraint and it would have shown something of South Parks depth had they done so.
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Law breakers do not always require a single instigator, but in any case where they are willing to break laws because of an instigator, the instigator is not at fault, the law breaker is responsible for their own actions.This is not true by our laws. Inciting a riot is unlawful in itself. Fire in a crowded theater..yeah that's inciting.
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An instigator could be someone walking down a sidewalk and being beaten to death simply because their presence instigated another. Do not deny the possibility of this scenario, this is a realistic scenarioIt's a made up scenario not even an anecdotal one at that. And again even by our laws and assuredly most people without knowing it, know that to walk down the street in itself is not instigating, inciting or unlawful.
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Anyone can find anything offensive and/or a attack on their belief system.I reiterate that I don't expect South Park to appease everyone but express some humility and not adhering to what everyone expects them to do.
I encourage you to play out a scenario where there was a press release with the creators of South Park saying 'Hey you know what maybe we'll just let this blow over for a while and release it later (on a DVD or something) because it's important to a lot of people not because we're afraid of attacks but it's a cartoon...'