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"Sheez!" I shouted, "How can you waste such good ale!"

(ok if that's too inappropriate some admin can delete it so i'll post an alternative)

he squealed loudly

Without the manliness...

THIKUSUN COLDS! not Tikkisun or Tikisun or Thikasun, no no no!

Wah lao nobody has gotten it right as of yet lol

I will shortly make a level 20 arcane caster to see if it is also the case.

I've done that already, and maybe I just suck, but level 20 mages are probably going to have a very hard time with pure fighters because we do not have epic warding and fighters at level 20 are capable of doing over 100 damage which will screw up our concentration skills.  I'd say in lvl 20 dueling clerics are the overpowered class.

Not to be rude or anything... But all you need to beat Nem is a pure SR monk... With 2 barbarian levels, or perhaps 3 rouge (Spot) ... Anyway, that build *Could* have a good chance in pvp... So, if anyone want to beat Nem, they can =P ... But it is a lame tactic =D ... Anyway...  Nemesis skills in mage battle is great... So dont take it as I am insulting him... Cause he owned me yesterday, heheh (I've been out of mage dueling for 2 weeks or more... Well, cya guys ^^

As Lance said, every build has a weakness .  Admittedly though, mages are quite overpowered.  Look guys here's a basic list of strengths and weaknesses (and I'm not taking into account multiclassing) [i could be wrong, feel free to elaborate on this list]

Mage
Strong against:  almost all classes
Weak against:  pure SR monks, really good archers

Cleric (any)
Strong against:  Fighters, Archers
Weak against:  Purer clerics, mages, possibly really good weapon masters

Fighter (Weapon Master)
Strong against: any lower AC build
Weak aagainst: any high AC build , Mages

Hider
Strong against:  any build with bad Spot and Listen
Weak against: any build with high Spot and Listen, possibly Clerics and Mages

Builds with palemaster
Strong against: Dexterity based fighters, possibly archers
Weak against: Purer variants of their primary class

Monk
Strong against: Mages
Weak against: not very sure about this one, possibly archers, high AC builds (since they then need to rely on 20s to kill them)

Archer
Strong against: All builds with 'average' GS AC (70ish-80ish)
Weak against:  Clerics (WoF spamming ones though or if you don't have remove blindness/dispel)

Well that's all I can think of at the moment, feel free to comment.  Note that there are exceptions to these statistics!

story outta control...

that nagging feeling

err...chichiri might've posted twuce so i'll continue from blood...

pink fluffy baboon

It blew up

Epic spells are supposed to go through mantle  =)

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Only real thing I can't stand is stealing someone's build.  If you can't use your own mind to come up with something unique on your own, don't pvp.  Sure there are a lot of mroe obvious builds taht are popular, but when you notice someone's kickin ass out there, don't try to rip off what they've come up with.. that's just really lame.

Can't agree with that more.

I mean...if you're going to rip off someone's idea, at least give the original creator credit...maybe mention them in your character description.

That's the main reason I become uber-angry when someone with the EXACT class levels appears before me, and starts to ask alll sorts of annoying questions like..."So how much taunt do you add?" or "What spells do you use?" etc.

Be original! That's how you make a name for yourself...be creating something unique.

Umm, hi guys.

I just joined this forum, and I can't help but reply to the issue of ripping people's builds.  I agree with Lord Aiden that you can make unique builds; but whining about people making too similar of builds is just ludricrous.

Mathematically speaking, it's pretty much impossible for one person to have the same build as others.  But there comes a point where a lot of tactics become standard, so to speak.  For example I made a caster with time stop, Bigby's Forceful Hand, IGMS (basically all the forbidden spells).  Of course at that time I'm a total n00b to GodSpire and I didn't know.  So I redid my character, and what do you know, many of the spells I chose are used by numerous other casters.  

2nd thing:  Oh no, my classes are the exact same and have the same exact amount of levels as the others!  It may seem that I'm ripping someone else's builds, but really I knew these classes would complement each other and I had NO idea that someone else would have the same classes taken in the same order taken in the same amount.

I also noticed that somebody eariler made a list that if more than 4 of the following apply to you then you're probably ripping off a character.  I agree, but how in the heck is somebody going to do that?  How are you gonna copy exact stats/skills?

Anyway, I'm probably just rambling, but this uniqueness of characters can only go so far.  Eventually there are 'standards' you must meet in the world of PVPing.