I would have to see actual gameplay to even look at it again.
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The designer interview contains gameplay footage.
for now it seems theres only 2 classes thoug, templar (fighter) and cabalist (mage)
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According to the interview there are now 6 classes, apparently there are multiple kinds of templars and cabalists.
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So what's the deal with getting involved in the beta? Sign up some where?
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HELLGATE: LONDON ALPHA/BETA INFORMATION (http://www.hellgateguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1081)
RELEASE SCHEDULE
* Closed Alpha = Late May, 2007
* Closed Beta = Estimated August 2007
* Open Beta = Estimated Q3 2007
* Gold = Estimated Q3-Q4 2007
* Demo = Unknown
Please note that the release estimates seen here are exactly that â?? estimates.
-420
Looks interesting. Problem is that games get an automatic few points taken off my initial reaction if it's third person view in such a FPSish looking game.
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Looks like you can switch between 3rd and 1st person view.
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EDIT: Here is the 1st person view.
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I've read a good number of the links posted here and I cant find an answer to the most important question: Is there any PvP?
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Yes there is PvP. Subscribers get to access special PvP arenas but you can also just go out of town like in Diablo 2.
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Yes there is PvP. Subscribers get to access special PvP arenas but you can also just go out of town like in Diablo 2.
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I never played Diablo :o When I admit that to people it seems to induce shock and awe.
So it is a persistant world (WoW, FFXII) where I can follow someone out of town and kill them immediatly along with being able to kill anyone that I meet while running around an area?
So it is a persistant world (WoW, FFXII) where I can follow someone out of town and kill them immediatly along with being able to kill anyone that I meet while running around an area?
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Not really, if you are by yourself you get a private instance of the combat areas, like Guild Wars. I suspect that you'll have to party up with people, enter a combat area then go hostile on one another.
This is only a guess since I need to upgrade Throbble to Windows XP so we can test out multiplayer together.
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Will there be a digital purchase of the game?
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Looks like EA Store (http://eastore.ea.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayHomePage&SiteID=ea&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE) is selling the Hellgate: London digital download.
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Oh thanks i think im going to buy that but isnt there going to be an european version of the game or something like that? it doesnt really matter to me.. i get almost same ping to america than to UK lol, i played City of heroes/villains and dungeons and dragons online on the american version with no lag problems at all, hope hellgate will be the same.
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Like Diablo 2 there will be a US server, European server and Asian server. You can make as many accounts as you want on any of those servers.
Unlike D2 there will be a single US Server instead of a West Coast and East Coast.
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So i can access EU server aswell if i buy the american version from EA store?
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Exactly.
Apparently Hellgate: London has some pretty wacky ideas about what counts as a "sword" for the purpose of using Templar special attacks. Swords include peg legs, cricket bats, knives, pick axes and maces.
Those are the few non-sword swords I've seen so far.
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pffft just wait till Chronicles of Spellborn come (it was planed for end december but now somwhere in begin January).........fuckers...
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While you wait you can play Hellgate, it will be released on Halloween.
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While you wait you can play Hellgate, it will be released on Halloween.
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nah.....i'm not much of a shooter fan.....
NFS Pro Street is released by the end of November normally Assasins Creed also but the ubisoft sons of bitch*** had to release the pc version somewhere in January 2008 also a bunch of fuckers...
Hellgate is not really a shooter, more closer to diablo 2 though, the marksman class can be just like an archer on any other mmorpg, you can just play blademaster or any other melee class besides i dont think that spellborn crap will be any better seriously, it just keeps being pushed back and never released lol, it surely will be just another common rpg or maybe even a total phailure like Archlord (and you even liked that game xD).
And the hellgate demo its only single player sadly :o
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Hell no i'm gonna bet you Spellborn gonna own the shit outta other MMORPG's you'll see, MARK MY WORDS IT'S GONNA OWN!!!
Coming from you i wont believe it till it actually comes out... i bet you said the same for Archlord :P.
Just another generic MMORPG most likely.
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Nah archlord sucked the only fun thing in it was the archlord system but nah the game sucks meh....you'll take your words back
pffft just wait till Chronicles of Spellborn come (it was planed for end december but now somwhere in begin January).........fuckers...
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Sounds like a bad mix of Shadows of Angmar and Guild Wars.
Sounds like a bad mix of Shadows of Angmar and Guild Wars.
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wtf??? ehm.....no lol i highly recomend checking out the website TCOS (http://www.tcos.com/)
The demo is now available: Hellgate: London Demo (http://www.3dgamers.com/games/hellgatelondon/downloads/)
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I'm waiting to DL it now
1hr30min download *gag*
In the demo are just 5 short quest and like 4-5 areas, and you can only choose blademaster or marksman, i got blademaster to lvl 5 and theres no next area after crovad somethin tunnels so i guess thats about it, you can always replay the other areas just reentering the game but its not likely to lvl much past lvl 5, then i started a marksman and theyre really quite different, and there seems to be only like 3-4 different weapons for each class in the demo, well only 11 days to go xD...
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what you mean hellgate london comes in only 11 days....?
Yes its released in 10 days now, October 31. ^^
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lol didn't know it was that fast...
could you post some screens of the demo tyr i wanna see the graphics and some action of that blademaster...
So it is a persistant world (WoW, FFXII) where I can follow someone out of town and kill them immediatly along with being able to kill anyone that I meet while running around an area?
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Update on the PvP in Hellgate. In addition to PvP arenas and the ability to join with someone to go out of town and PvP you will also be able to join a PvP channel that will let you go into areas full of people just there to PvP.
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In the demo are just 5 short quest and like 4-5 areas, and you can only choose blademaster or marksman, i got blademaster to lvl 5 and theres no next area after crovad somethin tunnels so i guess thats about it, you can always replay the other areas just reentering the game but its not likely to lvl much past lvl 5, then i started a marksman and theyre really quite different, and there seems to be only like 3-4 different weapons for each class in the demo, well only 11 days to go xD...
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Yeah, I got the the Covent Garden Steam Tunnels and it just kinda ends. I also got my blademaster to lvl 5 and stopped.
I did like the game though. It wouldnt replace guild wars for me but it will be a worthy passtime.
Available on Oct 24? Thats today. The release date is the 31st...right?
Also, could I assume that 420 will Subscribe and found a guild?
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The release date for Hellgate, according to EA, Best Buy and Amazon is Oct 30. Mayb e some people are getting it earlier.
As I've stated before, I'll never pay-to-play anything. However, Throbble and I are considering paying the one time founders fee ($150) for a lifetime subscription. No idea if we'll make a guild though.
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Hellgate is pay to play?
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You can play online for free like Guildwars or Diablo/Diablo 2 but, if you want to pay a $10/month fee you can become a "subscriber".
Here is what they are planning for subscribers so far:
Subscriber Features
Elite Mode
This is for those players that always feel a game is too easy. The demons are tougher, deal out more damage, move faster, travel in larger groups, and have more champions at the ready. Numerous tweaks to the overall balance and progression of the game make this an extremely challenging mode.
Hardcore
Hardcore mode takes away the various resurrection options. For the gamer that wants the ultimate test, try playing an Elite Hardcore character!
Themed Events and Items
Halloween (October 31 â?? November 4)
* Zombot - A special pet just for All Hallowsâ??, this amalgam of meat and metal is sure to frighten and delight those players that are willing to put in the time to find all the necessary pieces in order to construct him.
* All Hallowâ??s Visage - A Unique Helm that has not only very special properties, but as well a look unlike any other helm in the game. Ghost Rider would be jealous!
* All Hallowâ??s Treats - Delicious and devious, these different candies do everything from temporarily boosting stats to temporarily altering the appearance of the devourer.
* All Hallowsâ?? Quests - There is a pair of special quests available, including one that is repeatable for continuous fun.
* Nemo ~ Master of Festivities - This special NPC can first be found in Covent Garden Station to greet players and send them on their way with quests specifically crafted for the season.
Guild Creation
Buy purchasing a Guild Herald, a character can form a new guild. Characters can only be part of one guild at a time and should a Guild leader decide to abandon their post, they can pass leadership of the Guild to another subscribing guild member.
Extra Character Slots
While everyone gets 3 character slots, subscribers can have a maximum of 24 characters.
Larger Stash
Each characterâ??s storage locker is doubled in size with an extra 6x8 section, making the hoarding of all sorts of goodies that much easier. Packrats rejoice!
Founderâ??s Perks
Name Color
Forum Icon
More to comeâ?¦ (this will be an on-going area, as well)
Can subscribers play with non-subscribers?
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Yup.
Yeah, i suppose... separate servers would be lame but im suscribing anyways
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As Throbble pointed out to me: If you're willing to pay for a year and 3 months then that is already $150 so you may as well pay the founder's fee for lifetime subscription. However, that option is only available through pre-order I believe.
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Ok last question. Does a life time subscription include the game?
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Uh, nope, don't think so. So consider it a $200 lifetime subscription with game included.
-420
Uh, nope, don't think so. So consider it a $200 lifetime subscription with game included.
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Thats crazy.
Well, you don't have to buy a subscription to play the whole game free online.
Also, while it sounds expensive as one lump sum, the $150 founder's fee is equivalent to buying 15 months worth of the pay-to-play subscription. So if you think you may play this game longer than a year and 3 months it would cost less to pay the one time fee up front.
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Yes except that I don't pay to play games online. So 2 months would be a little too much.
Yes except that I don't pay to play games online. So 2 months would be a little too much.
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Well, as you know, Throbble and I are both vehemently against the whole concept of pay-to-play games. We've discussed the issue with gamers and game makers for years and we always came to the same conclusion: We'd rather pay one large, lump sum up front for lifetime access rather than allow our funds to be drained monthly for as long as we want to play the game.
Consider this fictional Diablo 2 scenario. Let's say that when Diablo 2 was announced in the late 90's Blizzard said that it was not financially feasible to host a game as huge and complex as D2 on Battle.net for free. Let's say they decided they would charge $10 a month to play Diablo 2 online.
Now, Throbble and I have been playing D2 online continuously since it was released (2000), for simplicity sake we'll say it's been exactly 7 years to the month. That means each of us would have spent $840 to play Diablo 2 for the past 84 months. Considering this, we would both be happy to slap down $150 a piece up front for lifetime access.
That's the basic argument behind the option of paying the lump sum.
But Hellgate isn't really pay-to-play anyway since the entire single player game is free to play online and there is no restrictions stopping non-subscribers from playing with subscribers.
-420
Yes except that I don't pay to play games online. So 2 months would be a little too much.
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/agree
I might even give Fury a second chance except that it is the same thing. They let you play free monthly but you're being left out of a good amount of things that you want if you are to play the game.
I just feel its not worth the initial $50 if you dont get the same options as people who can afford to pay their bitch fee.
Its the same than paying for any other online game...
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I think the point is that we don't.
Well, as you know, Throbble and I are both vehemently against the whole concept of pay-to-play games. We've discussed the issue with gamers and game makers for years and we always came to the same conclusion: We'd rather pay one large, lump sum up front for lifetime access rather than allow our funds to be drained monthly for as long as we want to play the game.
Consider this fictional Diablo 2 scenario. Let's say that when Diablo 2 was announced in the late 90's Blizzard said that it was not financially feasible to host a game as huge and complex as D2 on Battle.net for free. Let's say they decided they would charge $10 a month to play Diablo 2 online.
Now, Throbble and I have been playing D2 online continuously since it was released (2000), for simplicity sake we'll say it's been exactly 7 years to the month. That means each of us would have spent $840 to play Diablo 2 for the past 84 months. Considering this, we would both be happy to slap down $150 a piece up front for lifetime access.
That's the basic argument behind the option of paying the lump sum.
But Hellgate isn't really pay-to-play anyway since the entire single player game is free to play online and there is no restrictions stopping non-subscribers from playing with subscribers.
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Alltough that is a very good explanation and it would come cheaper to you guys if you pay lifesubscription indeed.
But what if the game becomes a dissapointment and you don't play it more then one or two months?
there you paid 200$ for a game that you play for a month or two....
i saw a review today of the game it had a score of 82(while the wicher got close to 90 lol) here they said the quests were too repetive and the storyline sucked, I think the devs of Hellgate London concentrated the most on items and the itemfever then the storyline and the quests, I mean I probably will buy hellgate london but won't pay monthly for it not worth it in my opinion.
The Witcher is only single player isnt it? because that doesnt matter much with hellgate, but yeah seems like hellgate storyline isnt so bright but who cares, i never pay attention to online games storyline :0.
But yeah im with razor when it comes to pay the funders fee.
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yes the witcher is only a singleplayer game but man oh man i mean seriously the story, hell man the graphics i'm gonna search and find a way to post screens this weekend because believe me when you see the game you won't no you can't believe that the witcher runs on the same engine like nwn2 because it looks sooooooooooo much better, detailed and cooler.
you'll see
But what if the game becomes a dissapointment and you don't play it more then one or two months?
there you paid 200$ for a game that you play for a month or two....
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Bioshock wasn't a disappointment but I payed $50 to play it for two weeks. Once you finish it there isn't really any "replayability" to it. Great storyline, great single player RPG, great gameplay, but in the end there is no staying power because there is no multiplayer option.
In that regard, $200 is pretty paltry considering that the beta has sucked away both Throbble's and my life over the past couple weeks. (The item drops are really the determinant factor, it's the whole reason we still play D2 after all.)
I was thoroughly disappointed with Guild Wars but I still played it for a year before giving up on it. So, if I pay $200 and give Hellgate a year then it's still a $170 value ($50 for game + $10/Month for 12 months). Which means if I give up on it after a year I've lost $30 but if it keeps my interest for at least 3 more months I break even, after that it's all free subscription.
-420
Bioshock wasn't a disappointment but I payed $50 to play it for two weeks. Once you finish it there isn't really any "replayability" to it. Great storyline, great single player RPG, great gameplay, but in the end there is no staying power because there is no multiplayer option.
In that regard, $200 is pretty paltry considering that the beta has sucked away both Throbble's and my life over the past couple weeks. (The item drops are really the determinant factor, it's the whole reason we still play D2 after all.)
I was thoroughly disappointed with Guild Wars but I still played it for a year before giving up on it. So, if I pay $200 and give Hellgate a year then it's still a $170 value ($50 for game + $10/Month for 12 months). Which means if I give up on it after a year I've lost $30 but if it keeps my interest for at least 3 more months I break even, after that it's all free subscription.
-420
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Sure. But then there are games like NWN that don't cost money to play online. It's the fact that we've all played that game for, in my case over 4 years, and with you and D2 even longer. It just makes it seem like these pay to play games are just there to extract your dollars while never coming close to providing the entertainment that a game like NWN was able to do, while being free of charge.
NWN is still more fun. Free content created not to make any profit and free servers end up offering better gaming experiences than these rip off mainstream servers like WoW and all the others. Explain that.
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I think you explained it pretty well actually.
-420
I already have the game aswell, i just had to wait untill EA dl manager would let me install it (since it was encrypted), so im playing now :P but since i made an european acc it always says wrong password when i try to enter US server, so im playing on Sidonis server or somethin like that, razor your playing online or just the single player?.
My name is Tyraell btw someone had already taken Tyrael >_<.
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single player atm....multiplayer fun?
btw lvl 5 blademaster with two kickass swords lol!
single player atm....multiplayer fun?
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Much like Diablo 2 I never even bothered to try single player. I mean, what if you find some ueber kick-ass weapon in single player?!??! You'd never be able to show it off to others and get a group of fanboys following you around offering to trade their pathetic loot for it!
I reeeaaaly don't wanna pay for it monthly though.
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Then don't. They are making things that were only available to subscribers available to everyone now like holiday events and the achievement system.
But i noticed that i still dont have a preorder code though i preordered it :0?
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You should get in touch with the people you preordered from and get it from them. Who did you preorder from and when?
I got a couple copies of the game yesterday, been playing a Guardian and today I'll be upgrading Throbble's computer with a 500 GB hard drive and Win XP so, hopefully, we can finally play together.
-420
I purchased the digital preorder from eastore, all i got was a serial code that i had to use to create an account and thats it.
I got my ass kicked so hard a moment ago with my evoker, when i got out of the hells breach at the brittish museum all statues turned into mobs (like 15-20 mobs at once and 3 of them were legendary... i mean wtf?) and killed me over and over, i died like 10 times :0 but i killed them all in the end lol.
And btw the game crashes a lot too at least for me, ive crashed to desktop like 5 times, mostly in stations or when i use the relocation devices.
The only thing i dont like is that there is no xfer system between chars like in most mmorpgs recently, because ive found a lot of legendary and rare items and theyre for another class like 80% of the times >_>
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didn't have a crash at all, true tough in SP i found a lot of kickass items but not for my class.....:(
how's the evoker class anyway i get the feeling all he can do is just summon shit and doesn't have any offensive spells????
I purchased the digital preorder from eastore, all i got was a serial code that i had to use to create an account and thats it.
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That code should be the preorder code. If you log into the account on www.hellgatelondon.com then click on "account" then click the "badges" link at the top it should list what you have associated with you account.
Mine looks like this:
Account Badges
Beta Tester
Eligible for Founder's Offer
Biohazard Dye Kit
-420
I tried that but theres no such badges link in my account management page :0, and the forum isnt working it says that the server its too busy at the moment >_<.
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That probably means the forum is working fine, just not for you, because the server is too busy at the moment. :lol: Used to get those messages all the time on various websites, traffic overflow suckas! :D
Tyr, you're probably just too stupid too figure it out like every other time! Retard. lol, I'm just kidding you. Do they have a support e-mail or anything? Did you try sending them a mail asking about any or all of the problems you're having? If someone doesn't answer your question soon, I'd give that a try. I dunno, seems like the thing to do to me.
I noticed the new forum, obviously. I hope this game lasts long enough amongst you folk to be worth it. =D
Now, go put 500 hours in. :lol:
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It hasn't got it's own root category yet thought :P
Btw 420 i looked around in the forums and subscribers have like 20 char slots instead of just one more, i tested it, when i made the fourth char another "create new character" bar appeared and seems it goes on like that.
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Subscribers get 24 character slots instead of 3.
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Razor you better play on US server from now on or youll be alone xD, i moved to US server and subscribed to US server, you just have to register another acc on the US site if you wanna come play with us xD. (420, throbble, cuchulan, anheg and the most important one.. me :P)
Btw 420 i looked around in the forums and subscribers have like 20 char slots instead of just one more, i tested it, when i made the fourth char another "create new character" bar appeared and seems it goes on like that.
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nah you gotta give Europe some time lol we always move a bit slower but we'll get there hehe, besides how can you register another account, isn't your cd key when you register a account linked to that account then??
Anyone else notice that the Dunder Lich creatures in Hellgate do that same hand gesture that is in Razor Blade's avatar when they cast spells?
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Heheh no...but on a side note, ever notice how some times creatures take 0 dmg and seem invulnerable unless you stop attacking them and re-target? Is this some kind of bug?
Heheh no...but on a side note, ever notice how some times creatures take 0 dmg and seem invulnerable unless you stop attacking them and re-target? Is this some kind of bug?
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I believe that is our old pal lag visiting. Who told that bastard about Hellgate: London?!?
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I believe that is our old pal lag visiting. Who told that bastard about Hellgate: London?!?
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Dammit...I sure didn't!
Anyone else notice that the Dunder Lich creatures in Hellgate do that same hand gesture that is in Razor Blade's avatar when they cast spells?
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Yeah I saw that in the beta the first time I got to mele range on one of them. This game has something for every kind of geek.
Those hand gestures arent naruto only, theyre common seals for japanesse ninjas i dont know if theyre actually used in the real life but i have seen them in various animes and games.
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Such as Hellgate: London.
*laughs at his own stupid joke* :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seems they changed something in the US server, i just noticed it but instead of getting 250-280 ping, im getting 500+ ping everytime today, and twice i got up to 1200ms then crashed... if it keeps up like this i would have to go back to EU server and that would really suck..., and no i dont have any p2p program on... not even msn >_>.
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Having to stick to a server meant to be for where you live? Yikes, that sure does stink! :rolleyes: maybe they did something to lagg the shit out of non-us US server players! Ahah! That'd be great, I'd laugh my ass off. But I doubt it.
You're just a lagger. :lol:
You're just a lagger. :lol:
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And you're just an annoying piece of shit....
Btw its fixed now, seems it was a problem with my router, i restarted it and now its fine.
Those hand gestures arent naruto only, theyre common seals for japanesse ninjas i dont know if theyre actually used in the real life but i have seen them in various animes and games.
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lol smt I didn't know, dunno why they would use them in real life, unless it makes them channel their chakra for real and blowing fireballs........
lol smt I didn't know, dunno why they would use them in real life, unless it makes them channel their chakra for real and blowing fireballs........
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Nah, it's just a fun thing to do before you assassinate someone. Sort of like the bible verse that Jules quotes before killing someone in Pulp Fiction.
-420
And you're just an annoying piece of shit....
Btw its fixed now, seems it was a problem with my router, i restarted it and now its fine.
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At least I'm an intelligent annoying piece of shit. You still remain a stupid annoying piece of shit! :lol: :lol:
HA! I knew it was a problem on your side. LAGGER! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah, it's just a fun thing to do before you assassinate someone. Sort of like the bible verse that Jules quotes before killing someone in Pulp Fiction.
That was indeed a good movie. Pre-killing rituals? Hell Yeah! :D