The Reason Antiworld gets so many players is because to Admins DO SOMETHIGN (no offence to ours) when A GM break breaks a rule they talk to them and the Sents need to not break the rules and there need to be more on all the time thats y there so many ppl and there needs to be rules for sents with the basic one and i myself dont like how th journel is onn in caps. and make the arena smaller with just doors that leads to the places cuz ther is no need for the huge arena and maybe make on OnEnter saysing Press J for Journel and Talk to that guy to get ported to Halls.
No Offence to any1.
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The Sentinels do have a guideline to go by, and they aren't allowed to break rules either. As far as I know there aren't any sentinels abusing their power, if there is, then you should let Mo know, send him a PM. And the reason that few sentinels are on is because nobody else is ever on... I've sat in GodSpire alone for damn near an hr. before hoping someone would come in and attract even more people to come in, but it never happened. There are enough sentinels, just not enough players to give the sentinels any initiative to go on... I mean, would you join an empty server and sit there by yourself?
about those rules....sometimes u need to learn when to let things fly...if there's a group of ppl and late at night and they want to kill each other fine with me...it's only when a lot of others (say +5) join that it should wind down, or if one of the ppl says "stop attacking me"
rules are fine...but should only be enforced when necessary, and don't say "oh go to angband" nobody likes goin there much the Hall is the socializing place in GodSpire -so that's where ppl want to stay.
I get randomed all the time by sents and DMs (glances at Hubba :P) and i don't care; i'm there to have fun.
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I do that all the time, in fact, I give more warnings than most other sents, and try to get them to understand the rules etc. before they go all ecstatic on me... I let the rules fly alot, simple fact is because there truly arent that many people at GodSpire, any time of the day, and really isnt all that much to do... but every now and then... you get the ones that exploit bugs and create mass lagg, from what their doing, "fireworks" etc. thats cool and all, but it hurts fps.
And I rarely tell anyone to go to Angband unless they're spamming spells everywhere and being a nuisance while others try to duel.
@Mo, what you say is quite true, but nonetheless, some of these bugs etc. need to be fixed, and the new area thing, just isnt GodSpire anymore =(
The problem is that "legit" PvP is less popular.
People log on to hacker servers, and they see the power, I guess.
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That pretty much goes back to what I said above.
The problem is that "legit" PvP is less popular.
People log on to hacker servers, and they see the power, I guess.
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Those servs are feeling death too, its more local vault in general thats feeling it. Check out server vault servs like BoW, Life vs death, anti, badlands, consistently 20+ players not even at peak times, 30-50 even more peak times
As Mo said GodSpire is a very particular, very well aged server that's for people smart enough to read the instructions that come up when you join the server. And if people were seriously interested in learning how to play pvp NWN the way it was intended then GodSpire is the best place to do that. I've had countless "students" and still get people who are willing to learn and come back for advice. GodSpire is as comfortable and enjoyable as it was the first time I came on.
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I agree with this statement completely and I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you Meclar.
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Since the topic about Ante's forum thread about GodSpire I've spent some time there not only to find out that it has the same things that GodSpire has but to find some other people to play against. I've gotten bored very quickly there because the lack of competitive duelers.
As Mo said GodSpire is a very particular, very well aged server that's for people smart enough to read the instructions that come up when you join the server. And if people were seriously interested in learning how to play pvp NWN the way it was intended then GodSpire is the best place to do that. I've had countless "students" and still get people who are willing to learn and come back for advice. GodSpire is as comfortable and enjoyable as it was the first time I came on.
I remember when I first met Kristie Dian over at Newbs Welcome, just when I had regained interest in playing NWN after HotU was released. One night I came on and sure enough there's a player with regen-unbeatable-a classic "regen whore" and so I say; "ha he's using regen ewww". Five seconds later I got banned. Apparently he was a DM. My point is that would never happen on GodSpire. I'm free to say things like that. I might get booted by some extreme case by Tolar yet image if for every time we complained about WoF or Horn we were banned....that's the difference and that's the same today as it was when I first started playing at GodSpire.
That same night I was banned from Newbs Welcome was my first night at GodSpire.
Now of course Newbs Welcome has a bunch of item property restrictions and regen is on the list....
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Hah! Newbs Welcome suxx0r, you're the third person I know who's left there and permanently become GodSpire, Delly and Brior were the other two
Do you even play nwn shade? I never see you on godspire at all. So where is your room to be talking about that? The only sents I usually see on godspire, are HeLL, Jimbo and Meclar. And sometimes Shadowfury. Thats about it. I dont pop on often because there is usually no people. But when people are on, I go. But I never ever see you on, so how would you know the status of sents online at godspire?
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shade was on last night, dope, and she's other things to do too, ye know
-Elessar
shade was on last night, dope, and she's other things to do too, ye know
-Elessar
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she can't speak for herself?
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I guess that many wait to log until there are more poeple they know. But that way it never gets filled of course.
(logged a time, first time since that counter runs)
-Mel
I guess that many wait to log until there are more poeple they know. But that way it never gets filled of course.
(logged a time, first time since that counter runs)
-Mel
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Well, that certaintly doesnt apply to Jimbo and I, and I doubt it does for Meclar either. We generally go on when ppl are there, and sometimes I go on when NOBODY is there, so people come on, but that's just us for the most part. Even if there is only 1 person I often go on, unless I am busy with rl shizz.
and angband still has the same old flaw to get past the gate. :)
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You can get through any closed door without needing to open it.
As for the new halls, Xen put a lot of time and effort into it. It's definitely going to stay. As I said I will streamline it a bit, and possibly remove the onunaquire item script.
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Angband has a second way, unique to the map. But I'm sure that isn't important at all, I just mention it as something of the good old days.
-Mel
Dude Elessar, I dont think I ever direct my comments towards you and yet you still have something to say about them. You can stand up for yourself, and I know shade and mel can. They dont need your help. So stop, its really annoying. I was trying to get a point across. Those three sents are the ONLY ones who are on daily. Which is what a sent should do. If she cant do that, then maybe she doesnt need to be a sent. Ugh.
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I don't see you on daily, maybe you don't deserve to be a sent.
-Elessar
I don't see you on daily, maybe you don't deserve to be a sent.
-Elessar
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I dont see you on daily, maybe you don't deserve to be a ***DM***.
I hardly ever see you on, and I am on daily. Get on later.
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=P i do go on and i come on the forums and check who's online about a dozen times every day, to my knowledge we live in the same time zone, so either you're nocturnal or i should start checking three dozen times a day to see when you're on.
-Elessar
Actually, yea I am nocturnal. The times that I go on godspire are usually during the late night. Day time, I do something called work.
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ya i've heard of it, but usually it doesn't span a time from 9 in the morning untill 9-10(maybe 11) at night...there is also the fact that the average human requires 7-8 hours of sleep =P
-Elessar
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I think it's offtopic, but ok.. I could as well have said that the l33t haxxor gnoll still says the same things. I replyed to Mo's post, to make that clear (read: to make sure it was clear) that I wasn't talking about bugs, but about things I reconized from the good old GodSpire. Anyway, it's just a detail in one of my posts.
-Mel
I think it's offtopic, but ok.. I could as well have said that the l33t haxxor gnoll still says the same things. I replyed to Mo's post, to make that clear (read: to make sure it was clear) that I wasn't talking about bugs, but about things I reconized from the good old GodSpire. Anyway, it's just a detail in one of my posts.
-Mel
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lol Mel reread what I said, we know there is another way into there without bugs =D.
All in all, I have done the best I can do, without spending every second living at GodSpire, to keep people coming, and to keep the arses out. I am sure the same goes for Jimbo.
@Bus, it isnt the same man, the old people miss the old halls. Aman is just a waste of space, and the new halls are too big.
@Elessar, Mercy and I have similar time zones, only being 1 hr. apart, and we both do the nocturnal thing. And later at night normally I see him on, he isnt on for hrs. at a time normally but he comes on for awhile, normally leaves and comes back on a little later. And I actually agree with him about Shade, not that she isnt cool or anything, just inactive. We all have our times of being inactive, there will be times when I will be inactive for a few weeks, but not for months unless my comp dies.
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similar things could be said about most of the other sents as well, you know
@Bus, it isnt the same man, the old people miss the old halls. Aman is just a waste of space, and the new halls are too big.
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Like the size of the halls at the server I used to run before archepelago, if anyone remembers. its just big.
The problem isn't so much as GodSpire being confusing or poorly laid out maps and areas, so much as there are no more new players to NWN (good players). GodSpire is an advanced PvP server, not a place for noobs, in fact, in my opinion the learning curve to GodSpire is pretty steep. This is why you'll see more players on at CM or Anti servers cause these places are more noob friendly, as they have small learning curves. Normally players "graduate" to GodSpire from other servers. This isn't happening so much anymore since there is clearly a lack of new talented pvp players on NWN. Only the moronic bafoon noobish types we are seeing lately.
GodSpire isn't dying, because there are a lot of good players who care a lot about it and won't let it die. It has always has a very strong community as is evident with this forum. Do not count on new players to "save" GodSpire. Unfortunately I do not think this will happen.
Tweaks to the mod won't make any difference. The best thing to do it keep playing, and perhaps play on some other servers, find good players there, and tell them to try GodSpire out. That would be the most effective thing to do.
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I don't agree . I didn't read the whole thread atm , I'll do but here's a post that need to be replied .
"The problem isn't so much as GodSpire being confusing or poorly laid out maps and areas, so much as there are no more new players to NWN (good players). "
> What do you do if even "advenced players" ( sigh ) from other servers get confused ?
"GodSpire is an advanced PvP server, not a place for noobs, in fact, in my opinion the learning curve to GodSpire is pretty steep."
> Old newbs become good players . And people that once were newbs on a server won't go elsewhere once they grew up in "advanced" players"
"Normally players "graduate" to GodSpire from other servers."
> Some do . But most of them stay on other server . Perhaps they used to do so but now they don't .
"This isn't happening so much anymore since there is clearly a lack of new talented pvp players on NWN. Only the moronic bafoon noobish types we are seeing lately."
> How can I even reply to that ? New talented pvp players in NWN are still there . But they go on other server . Simple .
"GodSpire isn't dying, because there are a lot of good players who care a lot about it and won't let it die. It has always has a very strong community as is evident with this forum."
> GodSpire is dying . I am not the only one that feels so . I agree with you on the community but those players are trying to do something and are getting rejected here .
"Tweaks to the mod won't make any difference. The best thing to do it keep playing, and perhaps play on some other servers, find good players there, and tell them to try GodSpire out. That would be the most effective thing to do."
> Tweaks on the mod WOULD do difference . Perhaps a more noob friendly attitude hence noobs grew in "advenced players" .
Whoa.. have you followed a fast course of English in your abscense?
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Nah I read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince .
I think it's offtopic, but ok.. I could as well have said that the l33t haxxor gnoll still says the same things.
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Oh I see how it is, everyone still waiting for me to add new custom drinks and gnoll sayings eh? I have uncovered the real reason people are upset, HA!
That was a joke of course, imagine the post covered in smilies if that helps.
OFF TOPIC: Mel, you can play GW on Linux if you use a Windows emulator called Cedaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega).
ON TOPIC:
Percieved Problem: some players like the old layout that GodSpire used for years. Some people like the new one. The old was better for a pure PvP only sever, the new one is better for a combo server with dungeons, creatures and a city.
There is no real solution to this since it is purely based on opinion and asthetics.
Real Problem: Xen had a lot of new ideas for GodSpire that he didn't bother to test, did a half-assed job on, didn't think through and has no intention of fixing.
Mo has said he will fix those issues when he has more time.
-420
Real Problem: Xen had a lot of new ideas for GodSpire that he didn't bother to test, did a half-assed job on, didn't think through and has no intention of fixing.
Mo has said he will fix those issues when he has more time.
-420
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Yeh, i agree with that. And thats kinda the reason for this, him having no intention of fixing, and because of that, still isnt fixed.
@Crim It has changed, been changed for awhile. Show up someday and look for yourself lol, unless someone gets to it first...
Nah I read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince .
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I've read a load of english books, including the one you mention. (in fact, not hard to read that one, it's easy) But my english doesn't gets better, as I only use it on the web (I never talk it in rl or something).
Oh I see how it is, everyone still waiting for me to add new custom drinks and gnoll sayings eh? I have uncovered the real reason people are upset, HA!
That was a joke of course, imagine the post covered in smilies if that helps.
OFF TOPIC: Mel, you can play GW on Linux if you use a Windows emulator called Cedaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega).
ON TOPIC:
Percieved Problem: some players like the old layout that GodSpire used for years. Some people like the new one. The old was better for a pure PvP only sever, the new one is better for a combo server with dungeons, creatures and a city.
There is no real solution to this since it is purely based on opinion and asthetics.
Real Problem: Xen had a lot of new ideas for GodSpire that he didn't bother to test, did a half-assed job on, didn't think through and has no intention of fixing.
Mo has said he will fix those issues when he has more time.
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I love that post, completly agree with it. I would like to add a few things, but I risk to push about all of someone's buttons with it. ;)
Offtopic:
About Cedaga, I'm not a starter with programs to emulate the windows api on linix/unix. Few days ago, because I have too much time right now, I finished half-life a time on hard while running it trough wine (cedaga is based on wine). I just prefer to support (like buy/donate/ect) projects that don't forget a very huge amount of poeple that happen not to run windows. A linux/unix port of GW would also, for sure, reduce the work to get it running.
Anyway, thx for telling. If I ever miss a linux port for GW you may be the one who tells me.
-Mel
Do you even play nwn shade? I never see you on godspire at all. So where is your room to be talking about that? The only sents I usually see on godspire, are HeLL, Jimbo and Meclar. And sometimes Shadowfury. Thats about it. I dont pop on often because there is usually no people. But when people are on, I go. But I never ever see you on, so how would you know the status of sents online at godspire?
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ooooo so i've only been playing godspire for 2 years and im only just a sent and i check into godspire whenever i can. mercy are u aware that i am moving right now????? and that i JUST finished summer school???how about.. my job is understaffed and since it is the summer the days workers are comin n goin on holidays and im the only one who knows how to close the bakery properly? stop complaining about my hours as i cant fix that. u n me have the equal say in what anything happens in godspire. I'll stop now cuz now ppl r gonna get mad that its off topic again but.. i'd like to defend myself -.- sorry
ooooo so i've only been playing godspire for 2 years and im only just a sent and i check into godspire whenever i can. mercy are u aware that i am moving right now????? and that i JUST finished summer school???how about.. my job is understaffed and since it is the summer the days workers are comin n goin on holidays and im the only one who knows how to close the bakery properly? stop complaining about my hours as i cant fix that. u n me have the equal say in what anything happens in godspire. I'll stop now cuz now ppl r gonna get mad that its off topic again but.. i'd like to defend myself -.- sorry
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Hey now, there's an idea... why not having a "Official Absence Thread" Yaknow, like explain if you're gunna be gone, and why (This includes just saying RL shit, if you dont care to talk about it or whatever.), and when you may be back, if you will be back that is, etc etc.
Wait... wtf am I asking for? I'll just go make one lmfao...
Anyway, ON TOPIC - It is a possibility of getting a teleporter like the Antes have... then again, with that comes other problems... ah who knows.
ooooo so i've only been playing godspire for 2 years and im only just a sent and i check into godspire whenever i can. mercy are u aware that i am moving right now????? and that i JUST finished summer school???how about.. my job is understaffed and since it is the summer the days workers are comin n goin on holidays and im the only one who knows how to close the bakery properly? stop complaining about my hours as i cant fix that. u n me have the equal say in what anything happens in godspire. I'll stop now cuz now ppl r gonna get mad that its off topic again but.. i'd like to defend myself -.- sorry
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Well I do think, not to be rude, that my DM spot on GodSpire gives me a bit more say than yours. Especially when the lack of your time on GodSpire is so apparent. Im not trying to berate you or anything. I like you and all, but damn. I have to work to, and I still find time to come onto GodSpire. Im sorry your moving out right now, again another inconvienence on your behalf. And summer school, another inconvienence. (sorry for horrible spelling, im dead tired 36 hours no sleep.) Now, Im going to go to sleep. Good night, and post what you want now, Im done with this thread.
ooooo so i've only been playing godspire for 2 years and im only just a sent and i check into godspire whenever i can. mercy are u aware that i am moving right now????? and that i JUST finished summer school???how about.. my job is understaffed and since it is the summer the days workers are comin n goin on holidays and im the only one who knows how to close the bakery properly? stop complaining about my hours as i cant fix that. u n me have the equal say in what anything happens in godspire. I'll stop now cuz now ppl r gonna get mad that its off topic again but.. i'd like to defend myself -.- sorry
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Where's my CAKE!! :aggressive:
Mercy, why don't i stop you right there before you go diggin your own grave...DMs don't make a server the players do. so don't go saying you have more say...cause you'll end up talking to yourself in an empty Hall
PLAIN AND SIMPLE PEOPLE! nwn is dieing, there's too many new and better neverwinter-ish games out there (WoW, GW, Lineage II). and Bioware is taking its sweet time release NWN-2. if GodSpire dies it dies, we don't have to focus on one game...
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!!!!!
Lineage 2!? Don't make me laugh, if you're not paying to play, thats the most slow paced boring game I've ever played. Seriously, Everquest was more fun. It isnt so much the game itself, but what you do. Run out kill monsters level up, go back sell stuff buy stuff and go kill monsters again. Or take one of the many quests that arent thoroughly explained and run around either wondering what to do, or killing stuff just like if you werent on a quest, only difference is u get some crap quest items instead.
WoW, is pay to play, and frankly not that many people left nwn to play it. If you think the thousands of people playing nwn right now, is empty, then I should hit you with a 10 gallon bucket.
As for GW, yes many people have left to play that, and many have come back saying it got boring quick etc. That isnt the point, nor is that even close to the problem, and you should either reread my post and determine that, or go on nwn and sulk. Just because some of the old players that have been in GodSpire for yrs. left to play another game, all of a sudden, the game is dead or dying. What's funny is how there are more servers than there ever were before, and the addition that I see many of them with many players in them, when there used to be many less servers and were always empty, if anything, nwn is at it's highest amount of players yet, nwn is certainly not dead, and those other games are not nwn "ish"
And seriously, dont offend Mercy, he is one of the DM's active and helping to keep players there and hold the server together. When so few other people are willing to do so. Of course you wouldnt know that would you?
I think if we really want GodSpire to stay together and get back on the roll, besides changing the things previously mentioned. We would need a Sent Leader person dude. (Prolly Mercy) An active guardian, besides Meclar. Upgrading an active sent to guardian would be the best thing, and if it should be anyone, it should be Jimbo, he does a great job and is on every day, and very active. And at least one more active sentinel. In which case I would suggest Neo27ger since he has been around for some time, and is the most active "player" without a status.
heLL please stop acting like ur the DM and that ur the only one right everytime. ur not as powerful as u think u are im sorry. and khad IS right many people did leave GodSpire to play lineage2 but u were not there at the time heLL cuz i even left to play it for a while before coming back and i never even knew u. an a other thing is.. mercy can offend me and other ppl buttt we cant offend him?? i remeber when he was a sent just like me n i feel that there isnt no differnce in the way i treat him it just depends on how he treats me or other people. A sent leader or a new dm wont do any differnce in my eyes. only the person who becomes the sent or dm are on 24/7 and then the effect wears off n they stop playing as much again. are u hinting you want to become a dm?? cuz thats the hint im getting if ya do... well i guess talk to mo. and an active guardian should be meclar so if there is a chance to have a sent leader i think he'd should get it. The other dm's and sents still exsist you know... they could come back anytime -.0
ps. make ur own cake mo! >: p ^_^
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Putting words in my mouth eh? Not wise. Mercy clearly stated he wasnt trying to offend anyone, he was just making a comment about something and gave his viewpoint on the subject. There is nothing wrong with that, and I and the other ppl's of GodSpire are only doing the same thing. If you can repeat one word Mercy said towards you that was actually offensive, go ahead and repeat it. As for me, I just looked over the entire topic and you must be mistaken I don't recall saying anything about wanting to be a DM anywhere. Maybe I should look again... I DID make my own suggestions about server changes, but you must remember I am speaking for the community not just myself. Now that I look at it, you're the one saying offensive things. And between the times when I was a regular player, and since I've been a sent, the times I play have changed little, I still play very often and every now and then am on a little less because of another game, which I normally then am on every other day at least. Even with another game, the only times I'm off for more than a couple of days, is when I am off doing some crap in RL, and every time I have made some sort of effort to let everyone know of my absence. Now please, if you want to offend someone, go get a pet rat, and tell it daily how ugly it is. I'm goin on GodSpire, if anyones there ^^.
@Mo
I looks like I somethimes can't load the the forum because it redirects "http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php?" to "www.lucidmagic.com", and as "www.lucidmagic.com" redirects back to "http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php?", it looks like a loop I never get out. Maybe that helps to locate this months old pageload problem.
-Mel
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Negative. http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php (http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php) doesn't redirect anywhere.
www.lucidmagic.com redirects to the above url.
Errr, you're all talking about titles and who's more important on GodSpire? Guess that's some real bullshit. It did and will do the server more harm than good. (gets poeple offended too) Also, I didn't notice gaps after beeing 10 hours online for 3 days, there's no need of new sent/dm's or promotions, the server just need more players and a bit more quality. (how about 1 hour less GW and 1 more nwn)
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Mel, you're my hero...! LOL. ^^
Anyway Shade, I've DMed for 2 yrs. there were good parts and bad, and I'll tell you straight out, it isnt all rice and cookies. You got people left and right causing trouble, gotta fix so many things, and in addition you have so many players asking for help and looking for a DM, at GodSpire, there are sents and guardians, and this takes some load off a DM's shoulders, but nonetheless many new players, have no idea what a sent is, but know what a DM is, and what do they look for? a DM.
And about your sentinel status, I said to Mercy that I could agree with that, but honestly I could care less, it doesnt make a difference to me if your not a sentinel, or if your never on and are a sentinel, which is just about the same as not being a sentinel. If you think about it, so long as you're not coming into the server as a sentinel and abusing players, and hacking shit, I don't care ^^. Plus the fact that if you come on, and do your job, and I'm on at the same time, that decreases the load, so just because I agree with Mercy, doesnt mean I care.
Mel, you're my hero...! LOL. ^^
Anyway Shade, I've DMed for 2 yrs. there were good parts and bad, and I'll tell you straight out, it isnt all rice and cookies. You got people left and right causing trouble, gotta fix so many things, and in addition you have so many players asking for help and looking for a DM, at GodSpire, there are sents and guardians, and this takes some load off a DM's shoulders, but nonetheless many new players, have no idea what a sent is, but know what a DM is, and what do they look for? a DM.
And about your sentinel status, I said to Mercy that I could agree with that, but honestly I could care less, it doesnt make a difference to me if your not a sentinel, or if your never on and are a sentinel, which is just about the same as not being a sentinel. If you think about it, so long as you're not coming into the server as a sentinel and abusing players, and hacking shit, I don't care ^^. Plus the fact that if you come on, and do your job, and I'm on at the same time, that decreases the load, so just because I agree with Mercy, doesnt mean I care.
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Mel is right everyone is equal..
I know what Dming is about more than u think I do heLL ive been around for a loongtime. and like u, i've also been a dm so please spare the lessons. If u dont care about my sent status then why are u n merc complaining about it so much????
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I know it's your opinion, I'd like to add that I disgree with it. That I never played GW has nothing to do with it what I said. I care about the whole community, not only those that move to GW, so I like to see them all. And I'll buy GW, for sure if it happen to offer a non windows/mac port, just to see those I miss on GodSpire. And I guess the game isn't too bad either, after what I've read/seen. That "statement" is for those that want to stay in touch whit those that don't own GW. Just, there's more than the game, that's why I came back in the first place.
Anyway, other poeple may think different about it.
-Mel
@Mel
why not use the pirated Corporate Edition of Windows XP like 80% of the Windows users here :P
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
Linux plays nice with other operating systems so ya go no excuse other than you don't like to walk on the Dark Side :diablo:[snapback]26478[/snapback]
I own a legal windows xp pro. But linux runs as much of my windows programs, including games, as windows xp, funny isn't it? I just know better than useing windows.
Anyway, offtopic.
-Mel
Ok, havent read most of the posts.. Alot of them where the same thing.
Now, Lost? the Rakshasa YELLS "Hey anyone need a lift to the halls" or something along those lines every second and waves his arms.
Now, that aside even if you didnt get a lift its STRIEGHT AHEAD, lol jesus. If you cant make your way there im surprised you negotiated your way through the hole in your T-Shirt// Let alone those 2 holes in your pants, eeek, anyway.
This is partly why I pretty much gave up on NWN1 GodSpire, people think we can pull a mirricle out of our ass and players will be falling off the brim as GodSpire gets overpopulated.
We cant sway people over with server changes.. They have to come and experiance the TRUE GodSpire game play and see what they think themselves.
Like Mo said, This server IS for Advanced players... Though yes, n00bs are indeed welcome but if you dont have a brain, or one that can handle simply getting to the halls
"3 doors.... omg.... I cant handle this.." (2 dont work...........) than you shouldent be in GodSpire at all or even near a PC.
Now, I aint gonna let GodSpire die either, what you see isnt GodSpire dieing. Its GodSpire Goin to sleep.
NWN2 GodSpire WILL rise again, and be the first ground breaking server just like it was back in the day (And even though lacking players is still groundbreaking now).
And if Matt dont come back im goin to the UK for a nad kicking spree.
Ok, there probly and possibly more but that will do, happy dueling, guild waring or whatever. Im goin back to LINEAGE 2 Chronicle 3! (Nah not official, found a NICE server with thousands of people and Official server files : p everything I know of is working yay High Rate/LowRate/Mid Rate)
Later
~Just D
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If a lot of people say there is a problem then there IS a problem . It's not that simple as you're trying to say .
"Hey anyone need a lift to the halls?" , yeah the rashaka says that . Though I never understood what "lift" meant . I found it with luck . Most of people in GodSpire have limited english ( me included ) , I think you can understand that . It doesn't mean they're dumb or stupid .
Btw , "halls" isn't really a word with the same meaning as "arena" . Hence most of new players don't talk to the rashaka .
Let's say you're a total newb . You come for the first time to GodSpire .
- You land in a boat , in front of you , the sailor ( I think it is the sailor ) . You talk to him and he says nearly nothing interesting apart from the presentation of GodSpire .
- In front of you again an other boat . Vash is standing . You talk to him , he asks you to go to the city . You're noob . You think : "OMG going to the city , I can go to the arena !" . You go . You get lost . You quit .
- Let's say you DON'T talk to vash . You go to where the rashaka stands . "Omg a weirdo asking me to go to the "hall" wtf is he talking about ! I just want to go to the arena !" 2 choice , you still talk to him and go with luck to the arena . Or you don't talk to him . Going to the arena is not that simple . I even get lost ( you might say it's because I am stupid but I guess some other people more clever than me and you got lost again there . )
- You get to the arena . "OMG BIG ZONE !!! WHERE ARE THE DAMN PLAYERS??" 1) You find em and FINALLY plays to the TRUE GodSpire .
2) You don't find them , explore the zone , get lost , quit .
Hence we have few problems for new players :
- Bad location of the rashaka : He should be at the VERY beggining of the map .
- The vocabulary that is too good for people with limited english .
- The location of Vash ; he should be in a zone INSIDE the arena .
- Zone and area aren't displayed in the map making it clear to go through GodSpire .
- An arena which is WAY too big for the number of people that plays on GodSpire atm .
- A better explanation of what zones are . Like updating the sailor for that .
"Now, I aint gonna let GodSpire die either, what you see isnt GodSpire dieing. Its GodSpire Goin to sleep.
NWN2 GodSpire WILL rise again, and be the first ground breaking server just like it was back in the day (And even though lacking players is still groundbreaking now)."
What you're trying to say is that you don't care about GodSpire in nwn 1 and that we just have to wait till nwn 2 ? You just rejected in your post all the players that tried to help , poiting out things that cause problems in the current GodSpire .
I agree with Max on this, things aren't as 'clear' as they could be. Why make things more difficult ?
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Alot of the problems is easy crap, that even an inexperienced "moron" like myself could fix, GodSpire has alot of unique and comlex scripts etc. and this is just rice and cookies compared to them, in actuality, most problems here, shouldnt even take a day to fix.
EVERY multiplayer game is more than 100x better when there are active people who are there everyday fixing problems, helping people, being as kind as can be, curing diseases, and giving u a damn bowl of chicken noodle soup when you're sick. Honestly, whenever I play L2 Global server, I am just happy to know there are GM's there constantly pointing things out, and repeatly telling you that if you need anything, or have any problems, to pm them. Kinda like if you buy a comp, and they tell you 24/7 quality tech support, and ur comp breaks, you call them up, and they're kind to you, help you and solve your problem. I can guarantee most of these piece companies you buy from, have shit tech support that ask you stupid questions piss you off, and barely solve your problem, if at all.
I guess I should put it bluntly... do I really have to? Yeah I think I do.
"Quality, over quantity." Can't place much more emphasis on that. I almost like being straightforward better, oh well.
Alot of the problems is easy crap, that even an inexperienced "moron" like myself could fix, GodSpire has alot of unique and comlex scripts etc. and this is just rice and cookies compared to them, in actuality, most problems here, shouldnt even take a day to fix.
EVERY multiplayer game is more than 100x better when there are active people who are there everyday fixing problems, helping people, being as kind as can be, curing diseases, and giving u a damn bowl of chicken noodle soup when you're sick. Honestly, whenever I play L2 Global server, I am just happy to know there are GM's there constantly pointing things out, and repeatly telling you that if you need anything, or have any problems, to pm them. Kinda like if you buy a comp, and they tell you 24/7 quality tech support, and ur comp breaks, you call them up, and they're kind to you, help you and solve your problem. I can guarantee most of these piece companies you buy from, have shit tech support that ask you stupid questions piss you off, and barely solve your problem, if at all.
I guess I should put it bluntly... do I really have to? Yeah I think I do.
"Quality, over quantity." Can't place much more emphasis on that. I almost like being straightforward better, oh well.
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Please also remember that GodSpire is totally free, where as L2 and other cost cost money to play. We run GodSpire on our free time and do the best we can.
Lineage 2 can be free, the server Xen is playing on is free.. they are called private servers... :rolleyes: :blush:
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Yes and you obviously don't have 24/7 tech support plus constant new content being developed for these free servers
Well, to be honest... there is... :blush:
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your standards for support and content must be pretty low.
Please also remember that GodSpire is totally free, where as L2 and other cost cost money to play. We run GodSpire on our free time and do the best we can.
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Hubba and mercy are supposed to be on daily .
They're DMs . Can't they try to fix the problem in the few time they're on ?
And if Matt dont come back im goin to the UK for a nad kicking spree.
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YOU HEAR THAT TALON!?!?!
Ehm, max? i don't know about you but im on every single day.. not like you who's on for 10 minutes and then leaves again, so you can't even tell if im on daily...
PS: And i think enough people can confirm that i'm on enough...
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lol hubba , I didn't want to get you offensed :) Don't worry I KNOW you are on daily :P
What I meant is there is DMs that can solve the problem cause they're on daily .
An other solution could ask someone that is good in creating zone to create one , a good one . DMs would just have to check that zone out , add NPC and scripts . ( though I am totally noobs at computer stuff , so I dunnno if you really can do that ) .
Can someone condense this thread into one paragraph for me? I'd like to read it but I just don't have time.
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Sure:
Some people don't like the recent changes to GodSpire (specifically those done by Xen) and think it's the reason GodSpire's number of players have dropped. Other people expressed that they liked the changes and the recent drop in players has to do with new games, NWN being "old" and "real life" getting in the way. Mo said he will fix the various problems associated with the new changes as well as those problems introduced by the 1.66 patch.
Other than that people have been posting various ideas on how to "fix" GodSpire.
A note on DMs adding scripts to GodSpire, I have added many scripts as well as altered existing default Bioware scripts for the various custom drinks, monsters and areas I designed. When I create these scripts and objects I pack them into an .erf file and send them off to Mo's FTP site with an explanation of what content I am adding or modifying. I find this to be the best solution so that the job of determining what new content might conflict with existing content is deligated to a single person.
-420
It's Cabazon
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You dont remember ABC Cabazon!?! The Orc tank in rainbow armor with a those horrible butterfly wings.
You dont remember ABC Cabazon!?! The Orc tank in rainbow armor with a those horrible butterfly wings.
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How can he remember?? I don't think Meclar was around when Cabazon used to play.
About players getting lost I don't find that's the case...if people don't know where to go or are "lost" they shout and they get directions which happens quite often and I like this because it shows they're somewhat compitent and they already feel comfortable asking questions.
If people join and get "lost" and then give up and quit they're attention span is far too short for an adventure style game and don't really care about what the server has to offer.
At some point we'll have a Sentinel at the docks wipin' players asses and serving fruit to them as they enter.
As far as the scripting issues...they don't interfer on a day to day basis with dueling so I could give a hoot cause that's why we're really there is too kill each other and shoot the shit (talk).
A. Duel managers work
B. FREE gear works
C. Travel from docks to Halls work
What are the complaints about? If you want to get a powdered bum go to Ante's server.
who are you I don't know you
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That's a bit judgemental, that's like saying every person alive with depression should be shot because they have difficulty asking a question... arent you kind?
And to say. ABC works then there is no problem is totally wrong, I guess you'll be having fun killing "players" in GodSpire when its empty... oh.. whoops... I forgot there wont be any huh? Whats worse is the three things you mention that work, dont all work... tsk tsk. What? You mean to say you haven't been paying any attention to the countless players trying to get the so called "free equipment," and rather than getting anything, losing everything? And travel from the halls, ya some people do shout, and some people dont, that says absolutely nothing about the player, or his/her attention span, and is assuming quite alot about someone you don't even know, besides the fact that with the server empty so often, shouting doesn't work well, when nobody else is around but other newbies or nobody at all, ya real nice, that will work I'm sure. And it is beyond hypocritical to tell someone to follow the rules, to stop breaking rules, and to follow the rules. How the hell are you supposed to follow rules you dont even know exist? Comeon! Ya, you say free equipment works, but the player loses the rulebooks when getting it, wow that does work well huh? Then they go and break a few rules, and some sentinel tells them to cut it out, too bad they don't know what a sentinel is, or what the duel manager is for, and don't have anywhere to look to read the rules... for me at least I try giving them another copy, but it is unfortunate that you gotta go and drop it on the ground and they gotta pick it up in time before it dissappears... nope, the scripting issues don't interfere on a daily basis... Nope there's no problems... everything is juust fine...
Reality note, there is no possible way without emotes or actual modifications to the game to pat players on the arse and hand them fruit on entry... otherwise those of us who care enough, would have tried that.
And there is absolutely no reason to say anything like that about the Antes server, it is very much the same, only without the problems.
this topic is stilllllllllll going...
first thing i feel meclars post was pretty spot on i dont see much point of repeating it since noone bothers to read or just automatically disregards any post that isent about "turn GodSpire back to how it was because of the poor noobs" or "GodSpire is dead cause of the new GodSpire" its all complete BS and people are even bringing in past so called problems from the old GodSpire and shoving them onto to the 'new GodSpire'
there are no problems with the server and your pathetic unanswered whines make me laugh
((oops i forgot your your pathetic unanswered whines HAVE been answered but i guess you were all to busy crying and throwing mud))
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OK..........
Sorry , I just tried to keep GodSpire on nwn1 "alive" ... But I guess I'll have to go to other servers to play nwn with a lot of people .
Just close this topic Hell , they won't do anything .
OK..........
Sorry , I just tried to keep GodSpire on nwn1 "alive" ... But I guess I'll have to go to other servers to play nwn with a lot of people .
Just close this topic Hell , they won't do anything .
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I said I would fix some of the issues when I finished my summer work which is by the end of this week. So can everyone just relax?
I said I would fix some of the issues when I finished my summer work which is by the end of this week. So can everyone just relax?
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Sorry I didn't pay attention .
Silly me . I guess bus was right I was too busy "crying and throwing mud" . Whatever that mean . I only understand that was offensive .
I said I would fix some of the issues when I finished my summer work which is by the end of this week. So can everyone just relax?
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Sorry I didn't pay attention .
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I also mentioned this in at least two separate posts in this thread please be considerate to the other people on this forum by reading all the posts before replying. It saves everyone else a lot of grief, misunderstandings and repetition.
Here is where Mo first mentions it, on the first page of this thread: Link (http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php?showtopic=2070&view=findpost&p=26253)
First time I repeated what Mo said on the second page: Link (http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php?showtopic=2070&view=findpost&p=26344)
(HeLL even quotes me saying it right after)
Second time I repeated what Mo said on the 4th page: Link (http://bluestarnet.com:1000/forum/index.php?showtopic=2070&view=findpost&p=26575)
-420