I welcome anyone with a good additude with open arms, but I am not sure about letting someone that previously had nothing to do with us DM godspire. I know Nara is probibly a good person and IF she did anythign wrong we would here about it fairly quickly but...I would have a problem accepting it.
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Well, I have lots of opinions on this, but I dont have the time nor the patience to type them all up lol. So here goes....
Nara as a person I dont really know much, she doesnt really talk much when Ive been around her. I understand that she has been a DM at CM for a while, and she also tried to resolve the GodSpire/CM conflict. But we all did something to fix it. And just because she was banned for whatever she did, I do not agree that she should be made a DM. She has not put in the time nor the effort to protect/better Godspire. Just because of the afformentioned reasons (Here CM DMship time, and Attempted Conflict Resolution) does she deserve to be different from the rest of Godspire citizens. She should have to wait and earn her keep as has everyone who is now a Sent, Guardian or DM. Everyone that is in one of those positions has put time and effort into Godspire, and it is unfair to them and the other people of Godspire for this to happen. Nara may be a good DM, she may be an awesome scripter, or awesome everything for all I know. And no offense to her, but in my opinion she does not deserve the DM rank, or even a Sent rank at this point. Maybe later on down the road, after she shows her dedication like we all have. In the end, its not our decision, this may help guide our DM staff, but its their final decision that matters. So whatever they decide is law.
I dont have anything against you, but...you seem to get our point. + I have never even seen you on (never meet you i ment)
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No worries. I saw your point a long time ago, and have no problem with it. I'm on my way to logg in now, though, if you wanna meet. :)
Nara as a person I dont really know much, she doesnt really talk much when Ive been around her. I understand that she has been a DM at CM for a while, and she also tried to resolve the GodSpire/CM conflict.
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We share the same opinion
Hey Anheg, Doriath is fading away, hey Nem so is Marauders.
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Sad,but true :(
I must say that I agree with both Mercy and Khadgar. The idea of me DMing was initially Mo's, and I said to him then the same things you are saying now. And to clear one thing up, I'm not banned from CM. I resigned from the position of DM by my own free will, and still play there as just another player. I resigned because Bug doesn't trust me anymore, and as long as I'm not trusted in GodSpire, I shouldn't DM there either.
Peace.
/Nara.
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I trust you, Nara.
Hey Anheg, Doriath is fading away, hey Nem so is Marauders.
So seems to be Divine Exaltation. *sigh* World of Warcraft has depleted everyone's numbers it seems. We must find new dedicated players to take up the torch as clan members
-Lord Elessar
So seems to be Divine Exaltation. *sigh* World of Warcraft has depleted everyone's numbers it seems.
-Lord Elessar
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Don`t forget Guild Wars is comming out soon.More inactive players...
Don`t forget Guild Wars is comming out soon.More inactive players...
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indeed
-Lord Elessar
I trust you, Nara.
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I'm glad to hear that. :)
(I hate to baby-sit, kids are evil you know, for sure if it are more 1 or 2 from around the age 7-17)[snapback]20081[/snapback]
ahem...
-Lord Elessar
Dunno if being dm has anything to do with scripting.
-Mel
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Dungeon Master - The player who portrays nonplayer characters, makes up the story setting for the other players, and serves as a referee. Also called DM
(Taken from Wizards of the Coast website)
It's just a bonus to have a DM that knows how to script. You know, in case the host has a goal and can refer to others for help. Or assign certain tasks to help out with the mod.
@Iceycool56
That more what a dm does on a rpg server I think. Playing an npc doesn't happens often on pvp servers. And it's indeed a nice bonus if a dm can script, they easyer can reach the ear of the host to get script problems fixed that they notice while dming.
-Mel
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"...doesn't happens often on pvp servers"? Often? I'd like to think it doesn't happen at all. When's the last time any DM pretended to be an NPC? Well... I guess some did take control of Belog... Damn, just disproved myself :angry: :P
Anyways, for purposes of PvP, DM acts mainly as a referee. Then there are the side jobs, as you pointed out, like debugging.
P.S. It's been a long time since I've said this: Mel, you're evil :P (don't worry, just something random)
Happy Easter
ahem...
-Lord Elessar
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You got to except the fact that we are immature :P
Regarding the final battle between Doriath and the Mauraders. We do have a working Team vs. Team arena now, so you all don't need us DMs to host your clan battles anymore!
-420
Janitor of GodSpire
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But we DON`T have enough members to fight the battle :(
You can trust Nara, she's trustable.
Sure we have access to some cool gadgets (like any janitor)
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Like a broom?
Nara could simply act as a promotional DM that tries to "advertise" (yucky word) for GodSpire-she does have the title of Ambassador so as I see it there isn't a DM with this kind of ambition or potential to gather players from other pvp style servers.
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Change advertise to publicize. That sounds better
But we DON`T have enough members to fight the battle :(
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WRONG! According to the current rosters, both the Marauders and Doriath have 11 members total(meaning there is a cumulative amount of 22 members in those two clans). Its you who have to arrange the battle and finish what you guys started.
-Lord Elessar
I think ACTIVE members is what was ment. If you count active members i see a total of...7 or 8.
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4 on 4 battles can be quite fun and I'm sure a lot of the newer players would love a chance to prove themselves to the existing clans. You can hire them as mercenaries while at the same time seeing how good they are at team duels.
-420
what i said before still stands. She seems nice, but doesnt deserve it simply because her 'friends' abandonded her.
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sorry but I deleted the poll, a poll is a bit rude, lets just hear everyones opinion :P
sorry but I deleted the poll, a poll is a bit rude, lets just hear everyones opinion :P
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It's alright, the poll just showed numbers. What's more important are our voices :)
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Mhm. I've done a bit of that too on occasion. PvP-based servers like GS and CM do give opportunities for goofing around in a different way, since they're not bound to an ongoing story, where everything must follow the logic of what's happened. Don't know if you've ever met CM's counterpart to Belog - The Discordians. Basically a bunch of bald, religious people dressed in orange jumpsuits, standing on all kinds of places in CM. Atleast they used to in the old CM, before Bug changed mods. They were listeners. Without one around you couldn't use /shop, /sit etc.
They were pretty fun to possess, and act out their emotional life, like make them whine about how incredibly boring it is to stand perfectly still 24 hours a day all year around, to listen to all the players, and not even get paid for it.. or whine about the fact that Bug never made any female Discordians.. lol
/Nara.
When I started reading this thread, I thought, "In a way, DM is a title like President: you should never give it to anyone who wants it."
And then Nara goes and proves my point:
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Just like the way rules don't apply to DMs, there aren't hard and fast rules about how to become one -- except that one must show good sense. Given time, Nara certainly will show us more good sense, and I look forward to getting to know her.
-Throbblefoot
umm... i'm not taking the time to read this whole thing... but if Nara became a DM on GodSpire, Bug would definately think of her as a traitor...
- Anonymous from CM
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A good point has been made. For Nara's sake, so she can maintain her friendship with Bug, we should just leave her as a player. I don't want any more bad things to happen to her.
A good point has been made. For Nara's sake, so she can maintain her friendship with Bug, we should just leave her as a player. I don't want any more bad things to happen to her.
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I'm going to be straightforward with Bug, as I think friends should be. I'm going to tell him all about this, and then I'll see what his responce is. I doubt it will gain me any favours next time he's about to choose DMs for CM, but that's not really important.. you can always make a difference, no matter if you're DM or not, Sent or not, as long as you have spirit and dedication. And would he bann me, or declare our friendship as none existent.. then that was probably inevitable, anyway. -_-
ok there are two sides to this but it mainly comes down to the point of does the player that is given the chance of being a DM wants to up hold the responcibility on the server. ive heard the nara was a DM at CM so nara has exp. but as i said it comes down to the player not the DMs on that server, not the sents and, not other players it comes down to he person that will be affected for better or worse. :mellow:
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Nod. Well said.
A DM isn't perfect, nor is any Sent. We're all human, after all. And as humans we do make mistakes, and we do not always respond as we should. Xellos is very generous to say such wonderful things about me.. but DMing has not always been easy, and my service under Bug has not always worked as I intended. But even though I might stumble, I always try to get up again.. that I can promise you. I served CM through good and bad.. and I would serve GodSpire just the same.
I can't really think of any more to say at the moment..
Good...hopefully then Bug will realize after a day or two that his only friends are his keyboard and mouse.
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Not quite true. I still regard him as a friend. For me, who have seen his good side for more than half a year now, it's hard to really lose respect for him. I've sent him an email now, explaining all of this.. the discussion we are having over me, and why. When he gets it, he will have all the time he needs or wants to read it, and then he can decide what he's going to think of it. Until then, there's really not much to discuss. For all we know he might as well surprice us all, and welcome the thought. I'm keeping my hopes up, atleast. Hope's the last thing that leaves you.
Thanks for your input all.
It's quite obvious that the other DMs and indeed most of the GodSpire regs, pay little mind to noobs and it's no wonder we aren't getting new dedicated players, only losing them.
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Speak for yourself. I treat newbs better than most of the regs. I talk to newbs just like anyone else, but my bow tends to slip everyonce in a while, while i'm talking to a "reg".
Speak for yourself. I treat newbs better than most of the regs. I talk to newbs just like anyone else, but my bow tends to slip everyonce in a while, while i'm talking to a "reg".
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I wasn't speaking for myself. I was speaking for "most"
Obviously you feel you do not fall into the "most" category. Which is cool.
Need more players like you who are still playing.
lol like mel became sent on GodSpire after a week of playing
-Lord Elessar
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Actually Elessar, mel had came to GodSpire before hotu, it wasnt her first week there.
@ Nara - Congrats may your time here be wonderful and span for time like ours. :D
Now Nara needs to learn how to do the Godspire Sidestep
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Actually, Mo already taught me that. I believe it was one of the more important auditions for DMing I went through. :P
Actually Elessar, mel had came to GodSpire before hotu, it wasnt her first week there.
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Nope. I never logged on GodSpire before june 2004. (who said I did anyway?)
Nathan that said I really had to see GodSpire a time in june 2004. And basicly, GodSpire was evrything I was trying to make on Arivs by then. And because it was running fine, I choosed to stay on GodSpire and help there instead of building on Arivs (I did (re)build on it later, to run a temporary server when GodSpire was down). I was made sent in 6 days if I remeber well, it wasn't really what I was looking for, but I was already happy that I could help a bit.
Well, things changed a bit last weeks. It seems like I'm not good enough to help GodSpire. Communication problems or something too.
@Nara
Take good care of those newbies, they not often get the respect they deserve from some other players. (and if someone feels himself/herself focused by that comment, that's not my fault)
@Anheg
Well, sidestep makes that you're not flat footed, a good reazon to tell newbies to learn it :)
-Mel
Raven and Taarna were removed also then? We need a DM list to be pined in GodSpire General. Along with an updated Sent list. I know Calia is a Vanguard now.
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Incorrect. Raven is on GodSpire regularly and Taarna will be back when she can make it
-_- I guess Raven and I have different free time...
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No need to guess...the answer is yes.
Along with an updated Sent list. I know Calia is a Vanguard now.
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There is a sent list that updates with the database. Go to the list of sents (not pinned) thread in TsoGS section.
http://bluestarnet.com:1000/godspire/sents.aspx (http://bluestarnet.com:1000/godspire/sents.aspx)