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Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: 420 on March 28, 2005, 04:53:53 PM
OK, this poll comes from a little topic of dicussion I was engaged in on GodSpire this weekend.

Basically it is based on 2 main theories:

1. The sun is a giant flaming ball of radiation.

2. We live in a back-water solar system and are basically the hillbillies of the Milky Way galaxy.

Now, you may think I've gone off the deep end. "We need the sun to live!" is the most common retort I get.

But I put to you that no one has ever extinguished the sun before... how do we know it will be the doom of us all? How do we know?

Anyway, our little planet is perfectly capable of sustaining life independantly with a wacky little invention call a borehole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borehole). We can just use our planets own geothermal resources for heat and electricity.

Of course we'll all have to take dietary suppliments so that we can process vitamin D without the sun but it's a small price to pay for the damage the sun does to our planet and its residents.

I'm not just talking about heat stroke, sun burns, skin cancer, blindness, drought, famine, faded car paint, bleached posters and comic books, melted tapes and records and Polymorphous Light Eruption (PMLE (http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic342.htm)).

Did you know that by the time our sun becomes a Red Giant it's circumference will reach beyond our current orbit! This blatant agressivness toward our planet cannot be tolerated and I recommend a pre-emptive strike in the next "500 to 900 million years" (http://www.solstation.com/stars/sol.htm).

I decided not to post the "Planets with more than one moon think they are better than us, so should we steal their moons and show them who's boss?" because it was just too silly.

-420

EDIT: 3rd choice should say:
"Let's just move our planet out of this backwater solar system to something closer to Galactic Central Core."

We really should be able to "edit" our own poles question and answers.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: CABAZON on March 28, 2005, 05:17:14 PM
I think we should make sun-blowing a mandatory elementary school brain washing class.

Teach to them it is their enemy, and wait 'til we're dead for it to happen so we don't have to drill stupid holes and take stupid pills.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Trizzie D on March 28, 2005, 05:33:53 PM
If we all decide to live underground we would probably adapt to being underground. Besides, how in the hell are we suposed to get to school? We would basically just have to build everything underground and convert the entire community to becoming a bunch of damn ground-hogs. Think of all the downsides you have to living underground such as your looks, your girlfriend's looks, travel etc.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: fireknight40 on March 28, 2005, 05:35:21 PM
I say we destroy it! It's to dangerous it causes cancer some say! Destroy it!
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Trizzie D on March 28, 2005, 05:36:59 PM
Yeah, so does everything else.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: fireknight40 on March 28, 2005, 05:40:47 PM
Then we destroy everything else to!
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on March 28, 2005, 05:40:51 PM
420 has finally crossed the line from every-day villany to cartoonish super-villany!


-Lord Elessar
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Mo on March 28, 2005, 05:43:57 PM
I beg to differ.  It is unknown why the core of the Earth produces heat.  It is also suggested that the Earth is losing it's own heat gradually.

Also:
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Additional evidence is in the observation that planets which are farther away from the sun are losing heat faster than they are acquiring it from the sun. They apparently acquired their heat during their creation.

The Sun not only provides life to countless of orginisms it also provides life for the Earth itself.  Remove the Sun and the Earth would float off into space gradually dying and eventually (sooner rather than later) turning into a lifeless sphere of rock and solid metals before it crashes into another planet,  star, blackhole or what not.

Idea = very bad. (not to mention impossible)
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Throbblefoot on March 29, 2005, 02:54:28 AM
I see that the community is divided on this important question, and I want to clarify my position: I chair the Sun and Moon Protection Association (SAMPA), whose core goals are:
1: Protect the Sun (and Moon, should it become a target) from 420's aggressive theories.
2: Promote friendship with 420, despite his hostilities to the Sun and the Bodies that orbit the Sun, including the Earth.

We're reaching out our olive branch of peace: 420, won't you give peace a chance?

-Throbblefoot
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Tea-cup on March 29, 2005, 08:11:38 AM
I agree with Mo,

The sun is one of the main reazons of life like we know it now. And changing, lets stand destroying the sun is something impossible. (way too stable, and somewhat hot) It's easyer to wait till it runs out of it hydrogen reserves. Takes a nice 5 billion years.

I think there isn't 1 single reazon to destroy her, she serves us well, and we can't without her. She isn't going to change to the stage of a red gaint in the near future anyway. She's also one of the most stable fusion reactors we know. If detroyed, the earth wouldn't rotate around the sun anymore, but just fly to who knows where in space.

When the sun get a red gaint, I would go to a moon around Jupiter. The temperature there will be around 3�° while the earth is metling. And when the sun becomes a white Jupiter could be used as small sun. By trying to get as much as possible hydrogen out of the near space that the sun is throwing out and giving the start of the fusion and maintain it (Jupiter never will be able to have a stable fusion reactor because it lacks enough mass for that, and I don't think enough hydrogen will be captured by it's gravity from the sun). If humans still exist by then, there's a change that they will be advanced enough to manage this. If no big problems show up, like Jupiter having a solid core, what is perfectly possible.

Ah, and didn't vote, I don't see a option that match my point of view well enough.

-Mel
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Anheg on March 29, 2005, 11:21:22 AM
This is almost as bad as the space travel topic...
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: 420 on March 29, 2005, 12:40:41 PM
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I see that the community is divided on this important question, and I want to clarify my position: I chair the Sun and Moon Protection Association (SAMPA), whose core goals are:
1: Protect the Sun (and Moon, should it become a target) from 420's aggressive theories.
2: Promote friendship with 420, despite his hostilities to the Sun and the Bodies that orbit the Sun, including the Earth.

We're reaching out our olive branch of peace: 420, won't you give peace a chance?

-Throbblefoot
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NEVER!!! SAMPA has been attacking me for several minutes, ever since they were formed last night! All you SAMPA people are jerks and hate-mongers and name-callers and I hate you all!

There will only be open hostilites between us because peace isn't an option because there will only be open hostilites between us and I will say no more on the matter!

And one more thing, you condescending name-callers are a bunch of sun-loving haters who hate everyone with hatred!!!

Just leave me alone!!

Why won't you leave me alone?

I just want to be left alone!

Hey.. where'd everybody go?

-420
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Mo on March 29, 2005, 02:05:29 PM
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NEVER!!! SAMPA has been attacking me for several minutes, ever since they were formed last night! All you SAMPA people are jerks and hate-mongers and name-callers and I hate you all!

There will only be open hostilites between us because peace isn't an option because there will only be open hostilites between us and I will say no more on the matter!

And one more thing, you condescending name-callers are a bunch of sun-loving haters who hate everyone with hatred!!!

Just leave me alone!!

Why won't you leave me alone?

I just want to be left alone!

Hey.. where'd everybody go?

-420
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Does this remind us of anyone we know?
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Cannixxxx on March 29, 2005, 03:30:20 PM
lol @ results from poll
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Post by: Elessar Telrunya on March 29, 2005, 07:11:56 PM
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NEVER!!! SAMPA has been attacking me for several minutes, ever since they were formed last night! All you SAMPA people are jerks and hate-mongers and name-callers and I hate you all!

There will only be open hostilites between us because peace isn't an option because there will only be open hostilites between us and I will say no more on the matter!

And one more thing, you condescending name-callers are a bunch of sun-loving haters who hate everyone with hatred!!!

Just leave me alone!!

Why won't you leave me alone?

I just want to be left alone!

Hey.. where'd everybody go?

-420
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SAMPA is beating you 420!



-Lord Elessar

PS: Did you have fun insulting yourself? :P
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on March 29, 2005, 08:12:39 PM
I say we move the earth. The moon is making faces at me and it pisses me off.


And yeah..

...

Go earth?  :B
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Throbblefoot on March 29, 2005, 10:00:46 PM
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NEVER!!! SAMPA has been attacking me for several minutes,
I'm very sorry that anything SAMPA did or said led to any sort of attack. To be perfectly honest, I don't see what we did that you could consider an attack - we merely stated several rebutals to your megalomaniacal plan, not a one of which included aggression towards you.

After all, you're no threat; your technical skills are clearly lacking - I doubt you have the engineering capabilities required to power a lightbulb using a lemon, never mind those necessary to obliterate the sun.

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All you SAMPA people are jerks and hate-mongers and name-callers and I hate you all!
Speaks for itself, really.

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I just want to be left alone!
If you wanted to be left alone, why did you start this insane campaign to destroy all life on the planet? Why did you attempt to recruit innocent citizens of Godspire to help you in your evil baffoonery?

Nevertheless, I still offer the olive branch, 420. I think there's a way we can coexist in peace.

And to be clear, anyone who voted for crispy skin should join SAMPA. And those of you how have joined need to vote here (you know who you are). To hear you then, you were all very opposed. Where are you now that the chips are down?

-Throbblefoot
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: 420 on March 30, 2005, 01:11:42 PM
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I'm very sorry that anything SAMPA did or said led to any sort of attack. To be perfectly honest, I don't see what we did that you could consider an attack - we merely stated several rebutals to your megalomaniacal plan, not a one of which included aggression towards you.
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Don't look down your nose at me and put me down with your condescending patronizations!

I'm bored with SAMPA and this is the last you will hear from me on the subject EVER AGAIN!
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: 420 on March 30, 2005, 01:19:34 PM
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Don't look down your nose at me and put me down with your condescending patronizations!

I'm bored with SAMPA and this is the last you will hear from me on the subject EVER AGAIN!
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And another thing, stop hacking this web site by registering an account and posting! You l33T Haxors you!

I know SAMPA is responsible for crashing every version of windows I have ever owned! Even when I was not on the internet, using Windows 3.0 it would crash and no one can tell me it wasn't SAMPA! Damn you SAMPA you have always crashed, hacked and raided my computer!

Anyone who has ever used a Micrisoft product and had it crash knows that it was all SAMPA's fault!

SAMPA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO ME IN MY LIFETIME!!!!!

I don't care about SAMPA and I will never bring it up again.

SAMPA is full of hackers and this is the last you'll hear on the matter.

Stop bringing up SAMPA they are not even worth discussing.

SAMPA are lying liars don't believe their false lies of lying! Case closed!

Why does SAMPA keep crashing my Windows OS? Stupid kiddy-hacker-noob-leet-kiddies never mention SAMPA again!

All mentions of SAMPA should be deleted from the memories of everyone on this forum!

Why can't I stop talking about SAMPA? I hate him so much!

-420
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: BzK on March 30, 2005, 01:43:19 PM
:lol: and this is why we love 420 and Throbble. you guys are a riot =D
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Suki YO on March 31, 2005, 12:39:20 AM
I would like to say I am now the official treasurer of SAMPA. Does anyone want to make a donation to preserve our sun and moon in there natural habitat?
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on March 31, 2005, 05:38:24 PM
I have now donated a sack of aborted fetuses to Suki YO's save the SAMPA orginization, or whatever.

Enjoy! <3
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Anheg on March 31, 2005, 10:16:16 PM
lol very nice visual. I am sure that would be a glorious donation, in all its blue glory.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on April 01, 2005, 10:38:49 PM
<---- was the supplier.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Mercy on April 02, 2005, 02:08:49 AM
I agree with 420 and aim to make several nuclear devices to help destroy the sun, also SAMPA shall be taken care of *pulls out Remington Model 12-A Bolt Action Sniper Rifle* dont you worry sir. *grins* I will also send you a fix so you wont crash on 3.0 they do that to me as well. Damn you SAMPA!
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Suki YO on April 02, 2005, 02:32:51 AM
SAMPA has used its funds of aborted fetuses to purchase a massive army of super mutant ninja pirates. Those who we deem dangerous to the sun and/or moon will be captured and lobotomized. Prepare for war >:D
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Hobbie on April 02, 2005, 02:33:18 AM
I find the idea of using nuclear weapons as a method of destablzing the sun slightly silly. Even Uranium, the densest metal in a warhead, would reach its Boiling point (4131 �°C) outside of the sun's photosphere (photosphere temperature 6000 �°C).
[(http://www.ktf-split.hr/periodni/en/txt/u.html)]
Even if you were  able detonate a warhead near the photosphere the explosive wave would be swept away from the star by the solar wind which streams off of the Sun in all directions at speeds of about 400 km/sec (about 1 million miles per hour)[(http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sun_wind.htm)]
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Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Mercy on April 02, 2005, 02:36:56 AM
//*sighs* Which in stating the facts you did, wouldnt that show that I was being silly? I mean cmon rofl.//
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Hobbie on April 02, 2005, 02:49:02 AM
Just wanted to add a bit of seriousness into this endeavor...
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on April 02, 2005, 09:16:28 AM
<--- will eat Hobbie, for being serious.


ph34r teh gorrilla
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Hobbie on April 02, 2005, 11:16:36 AM
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<--- will eat Hobbie, for being serious.
ph34r teh gorrilla
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<----- ME IN AEROPLANE!!!
          WITH MISSILES
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Celestial1 on April 02, 2005, 12:36:49 PM
Destroy the sun!!!!

And stop going off topic k thx! o.o

~Celestial
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: bus driver on April 03, 2005, 01:54:42 AM
Q: How far can you see on a clear day?
A: 93 Million miles...From here to the Sun.



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Post by: Mo on April 03, 2005, 03:50:15 AM
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Q: How far can you see on a clear day?
A: 93 Million miles...From here to the Sun.
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Q: How far can you see on a clear night?
A: 2.2 million light years....from here to Andromeda

(about 12,904,531,200,000,000,000 miles)
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Mercy on April 04, 2005, 04:29:45 PM
w00t! go mo!
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Throbblefoot on April 04, 2005, 10:47:08 PM
I see that 420 (or one of his pathetic lap-dogs) has rigged the vote, but I assure you, oh citizens of Godspire, that SAMPA would *never* tamper with a poll's outcome! We aren't pathalogical liars like *some* people I can mention, including some to whom I am related by marriage.

With our army so shrewdly raised by Treasurer Suki, SAMPA will protect the heavenly bodies that allow life to thrive on the planet Earth! Fear not Mercy's projectile weapon, for it is obsolete of design and he is poor of aim!

-Throbblefoot
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Who The Man on April 05, 2005, 04:12:33 AM
420, why don't you do an experiment for us? Go and live underground, or in the center of the galaxy and tell us in 40 years if you survived. Or do some espionage on the sun. We need more intel before we can make any decisions. SAMPA may do the same. The voyage will be funded by Suki.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: bus driver on April 05, 2005, 04:43:06 AM
*walks in with a pro sun sign*........the sun is good.... i dont think i need to say anymore......i dont need to say why .......i dont need facts...............if you want to argue or talk about how "bad" the sun is .....you can talk to my pet axe "feather weight"  *pulls out greataxe*................i'll killllllllll you if you talk to my axe



Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Who The Man on April 05, 2005, 05:06:07 AM
Why would I want to talk to deodarant?
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on April 05, 2005, 10:17:21 AM
Bus is riding on a butterfly as he posted that.

If you know what I mean.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: 420 on April 05, 2005, 07:00:31 PM
Haven't slept for 4 days... SAMPA is everywhere... I can see him staring at me through my window at night... with his EYES... he just floats there... DAMN YOU SAMPA!!!! shhh, he might hear me... SAMPA crashed my toilet and pretended to be a plumber to infiltrate my inner sanctum! inner sanctum... I didn't let SAMPA fix my toilet and now my toilet isn't working... all SAMPA's fault!!!

Can't you see! It's in the bible people, somewhere near the back! SAMPA made the sun to destroy the Earth by slowly roasting us alive over hundreds of millions of years! DIABOLICAL!

I have a cheap proposal that is possible with today's rocket technology. First we get all of the SPF 30 sun screen lotion IN THE WORLD! Then we load it up into specially modified spacecraft and distribute an even layer of SPF 30 sun screen as a thin globe around the sun.

If SAMPA weren't out there I would be collecting SPF 30 sun screen lotion door-to-door. I call upon all sun-fearing citizens to go out and collect SPF 30 sun screen lotion and send it to NASA! Good old NASA, he'll know what to do.

-420
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Elessar Telrunya on April 05, 2005, 07:51:17 PM
We have reached personification!

Elessar out.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Celestial1 on April 05, 2005, 08:41:58 PM
Uhm, are you *drunk* during all the times you posted, 420?

I'm all for destroying human life either way, but I mean hey, we live longer with the sun-until it sucks us in with it's diabolical gravitational orbit and kills us all with a bloody fiery-Oh my god, you got me doing it!!!!!

~Celestial
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Throbblefoot on April 09, 2005, 09:24:38 PM
420, I say this not as the Chair of SAMPA, but as a fellow human, and out of concern for your neighbors:

Let the plumber fix your toilet. I promise he won't let the sun in behind him.

-Throbblefoot
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: CABAZON on April 09, 2005, 10:48:25 PM
HOW FAR CAN YOU SEE IN PRETEND LAND?

I CAN SEE TEN ZILLION MILES BUT YOU CAN'T SEE CAUSE I PERMABANNED EVERYONE BUT ME FROM PRETEND LAND.
Title: Should we extinguish the sun?
Post by: Wobbles on April 12, 2005, 11:32:16 AM
Whee. =)