i was thinking to bring some of the clans/ guilds back up and active and to organize a new event in arivs.
The best way to do that is holding a clan tournament. U all wondering , whats that ??
well, each clan and guild that participate with this should choose 1 representive from theyre clan (they do best to take their best player)
then we hold a litle tournament against each other.
How we do that?
Well i was thinking about an innocent hand(me) blindly draws wich clan fight wich, the winner of the battle goes on to the semi half/half/ finals.
well in this stage it only an idea, can u let me know here if u like it or not and if ur clan is willing to participate.
this way i can work things better out qua date , time , rules ,etc...
Current List of Rules:
1.Level 40 clan battle
2.clans are responsible of having 3 players their on the date,if only 2 show up they have to fight with 2 vs 3
3.since its 3vs3 clans dont have to register their champions names, but they do have to register here whether they will participate or not.
4.interference from outside of any kind will make the batle to be replayed. If a clan member interfere in the duel that clan will be dispatched.
5.referring to max idea: people who do wanna join but arent in any group or clan can make a small group of 3 for the tournament. but they have to give it a name and register the name before the deadline.
REGISTRATION IS OPEN UNTIL 01/01/2005
Registered Clans
[ol type=\'1\'][li]DcD [/li][li]Brujah[/li][li]Doriath[/li][li]Antes[/li][/ol]
ow and btw Melissa, should this come through would u mind considering putting a billboard on arivs like they had in the homeworld of the Antedilluvians? Might be handy to post results etc and for in the future other events
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mm, I'll be busy next few days (a day or 2-3), afther that I have more time to script things. I have a sort of board where you can post on dled from nwvault, but I somewhat refuse to use someones code if I didn't turned it inside out to see what it all does.
I plan to script arivs well to do wars as it wanted it to be a war server for gs. So poeple would have no lag from other poeple not part of the way.
-Mel
i was thinking to bring some of the clans/ guilds back up and active and to organize a new event in arivs.
The best way to do that is holding a clan tournament. U all wondering , whats that ??
well, each clan and guild that participate with this should choose 1 representive from theyre clan (they do best to take their best player)
then we hold a litle tournament against each other.
How we do that?
Well i was thinking about an innocent hand(me) blindly draws wich clan fight wich, the winner of the battle goes on to the semi half/half/ finals.
well in this stage it only an idea, can u let me know here if u like it or not and if ur clan is willing to participate.
this way i can work things better out qua date , time , rules ,etc...
Registered Clans/Members
[ol type=\'1\']
[/li][li]DcD (Maxou)
[/li][/ol]
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Of what level should your clan representive be??
Of what level should your clan representive be??
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level 40
It might be best to wait for GS to be up and running again.
Once people hear that it is up again that will create more traffic and activity and help with the tournament and then you can use Arivs for what Melisa has planned for it.
Use the tournament for a trail run on Arivs and make it a CLAN tournament 3v3 or something.
Having just one person from each clan narrows involvment of players and defeats the purpose of having clans.
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i like that idea
maybe having a 3v3 at first (before gs is back) would be good - there would be more people later and 3v3 would keep the numbers up :)
It might be best to wait for GS to be up and running again.
Once people hear that it is up again that will create more traffic and activity and help with the tournament and then you can use Arivs for what Melisa has planned for it.
Use the tournament for a trail run on Arivs and make it a CLAN tournament 3v3 or something.
Having just one person from each clan narrows involvment of players and defeats the purpose of having clans.
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i like that idea
maybe having a 3v3 at first (before gs is back) would be good - there would be more people later and 3v3 would keep the numbers up :)
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There should be a date. I wouldn't take it too close because most clans didn't react yet. It also helps me if I want to do some basic scripting for it.
And whatever you do , don't go over 5vs5 exept if you're a low frames per second fan or somthing.
(I'm useing a 600x400 resolution on a p166 atm :P)
-Mel
well celestial , read my post better:p
its clans/guild/groups responsibility to have their members
1 missing, their fault, they have to fight with 2 vs 3 then
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Or the other leaving 1 member out to have 2vs2. That's what I saw clans do on counterstike. They are allwoed to continue whit 3 but may drop 1 to stay a bit fair :P
-Mel
What is the date and time of the clan wat so every can come and watch and be in it??????
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Read the topic, exact time prolly will come later when there are enough clans in.
-Mel
I don't want to make problems, but dcd stands as clan. I did think it was a guild, and mort was whit the ante's. I might be a bit out of date about the current state of things. Someone light me up?
-Mel
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well, mort left the antes, and guilds are also allowed to join the tourney. (according to mort)
I don't think I will get any other Ante members for this event but is there a way I could join another group without leaving Ante?
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most likely, maybe you could fill up Brujahs numbers (if they need it)
p.s.
its James again :P - remember me? :rolleyes:
I don't think I will get any other Ante members for this event but is there a way I could join another group without leaving Ante?
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most likely, maybe you could fill up Brujahs numbers (if they need it)
p.s.
its James again :P - remember me? :rolleyes:
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I always thought Ante is not allied with Brujah so it is not very likely that I will join them in this tournament...it would be like a betreyal :angry:
I don't think I will get any other Ante members for this event but is there a way I could join another group without leaving Ante?
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most likely, maybe you could fill up Brujahs numbers (if they need it)
p.s.
its James again :P - remember me? :rolleyes:
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I always thought Ante is not allied with Brujah so it is not very likely that I will join them in this tournament...it would be like a betreyal :angry:
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well, find a clan with few active members and ask to make up numbers..
I don't think I will get any other Ante members for this event but is there a way I could join another group without leaving Ante?
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most likely, maybe you could fill up Brujahs numbers (if they need it)
p.s.
its James again :P - remember me? :rolleyes:
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I always thought Ante is not allied with Brujah so it is not very likely that I will join them in this tournament...it would be like a betreyal :angry:
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well, find a clan with few active members and ask to make up numbers..
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hmmm this will take too much time. So Ante's won't join. :(
If I get the time I can make hellball only kd 1 pc that is the closed to the blast and lowerin the damage if the distance get longer. Wof can be saved against on arivs for a 6 second duration and is easy to get rid of. Wof dc is the normal dc of a level 7 spell + the clerics level/2. This still can reach 60 dc (spellcraft works on it).
Problems are more sov's and other kinds of area of effect spells. Those can make a heavy fps drop on the players. Just imagen 15 sov's + 15 baldebariers going. And if both teams have 2 cleric, you can get over 20 sov's + 30 bladebariers or more if every cleric use 5 sov's and about 7 baldebariers. 1fps or lower is what you get whatever your system is.
Anyway, this gives me idea's of what I can script :)
-Mel
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Hmm only 1 hellball for each team would be ok I think . What you need to precize is ( at least for me ) : resurection , hell ball , heal .
ah, and healing spells def not allowed (duh)
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healing should be allowed if its 3v3 IMO, it would add a more tactical element to the proceedings.
also, why oh why did you put a dc on WoF? it hurts so bad that hiders can go around seing us and we can hurt them with a tiny WoF :)
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Hide in tvt can get more then 1 player at the same time flat. I'm not sure how to handle the hiders right now. Basicly they aren't a problem because aa's are as lame when they are whit two attacking 1 opponent. (Get SpoT <_< ) But aoe spells fired at hiders that move themself between their opponents can be lame.
Other words, should it be party protected or not? Otherwise we're going to invent the teamkilling pvp type I think. Aoe's are like rockets whit a huge blast radius. Not something you want to impact in the middle of your own team. Atm I think it should be party protected.
-Mel
Also balagarns iron horn should be changed so that it works properly cuz I know it'll be overly used. If someone casts horn it's a check for if the opponent also has it, if not then opponent falls down, we all know that. However, that's not quite what happens, it's actually 20+1d20 vs spell which is 20+1d20, so a 50% kd chance if the opponent has 20 str, even tho 20 str should mean immunity to horn.
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Same as hellball, should only affect the closest enemy pc player. (I'm scripting right now and can't think normal :P)
-Mel
well AAs have like 115-117 spot, hiders always have 120 or more. Ofcourse a cleric spotter/supporter is always good in the back, but it doesn't help the AAs spot ability.
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115-117 + 1d20 = 116-137
Other words, you see them most of the time. Make spot chars elf and you're safe.
Btw '70% miss chance for missile attacks'? How you want to do that? Conseal doesn't stack.
-Mel
imp invis + entropic shield + deflect arrows, and archer can't touch you with that.
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imp invis+ entropic shield = 50% conseal doesn't stack.
It's like eb and imp invis would stack for 100% conseal <_<
-Mel
entropic shield isn't conceal, it's 20% miss chance from missile attacks
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I thought that was 25 % damn :P
There will be an overuse on sd monk cleric on that tournament I feel it ... More cleric than mage that's clear .
I thought I posted something about heal and resurrection but I can't see it .
So let's repeat :) >> My opinion is heal and resurrection forbidden . You can easily create an effective team with the 3 member part cleric . That means ton of heal and resurrection . That would kill the game <_<
imp invis + entropic shield + deflect arrows, and archer can't touch you with that.
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Meh, there will be dispellers to take care of two of those at least..
entropic shield isn't conceal, it's 20% miss chance from missile attacks
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I thought that was 25 % damn :P
There will be an overuse on sd monk cleric on that tournament I feel it ... More cleric than mage that's clear .
I thought I posted something about heal and resurrection but I can't see it .
So let's repeat :) >> My opinion is heal and resurrection forbidden . You can easily create an effective team with the 3 member part cleric . That means ton of heal and resurrection . That would kill the game <_<
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3 clerics are so death agianst 3 mages or 3 aa's. Don't take aa's too easy in tvt. If they all 3 target 1, then 2 aa's get the opponent flat. Crits and much damage you get then. Even a combo of a 56 str deva critter + a high kd wmmaster and a bard to lower skill and ac on the opponents will finish those sd/monk/clerics in no time.
Just take a 80 ab wm that use kd on a opponent that has -11 ac -to his disipline and saves. If a deva critter whit 51 dc hits that a few times you're almost sure of a instant kill. Even the damage dealt will do it. And when it's kd you will hit and crit a lot.
A pm would be very usefull in that case :P
Anyway, some spells will be limited in use, including rez and sov's. Some in the number of targets it affect, like hellball and horn. Also I won't let hellball work a second time if you were raised. It's really a lot to script in fact, if it want's to be wellmade, and testing it will be a pain.
-Mel
imp invis + entropic shield + deflect arrows, and archer can't touch you with that.
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Meh, there will be dispellers to take care of two of those at least..
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If 2 aa's whit 85 ab target 1 monk whit 100 ac, 50 conseal and deflect arrows. That monk will be death. Any second opponent that targets you has you flat, the second aa is like a 85 ab hider that would be hidden and hitting all the time.
The team that wins proly will be the one that did work the best together. The skill/build of each player won't matter that much, as long the team is well made.
-Mel
You're not flat footed by a second attacker. You're flanked...there is a difference
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Can you tell the difference for us poor stranger who don't understand what flanked means ?
You're not flat footed by a second attacker. You're flanked...there is a difference
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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.
Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.
Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.
-Mel
flanked means +2 ab for the second attacker.
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Mm, if it's just +2 I may be wrong about the aa's. :blink:
-Mel
You're not flat footed by a second attacker. You're flanked...there is a difference
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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.
Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.
Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.
-Mel
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We are sorting out the dedicated server for GS at the moment. Hopefully everything will work out and if so we should have GS back early in the new year. In the mean time, I could host arvis for you or Sher might be able to host it on the server that hosts LM. Just until GS gets back.
You're not flat footed by a second attacker. You're flanked...there is a difference
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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.
Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.
Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.
-Mel
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We are sorting out the dedicated server for GS at the moment. Hopefully everything will work out and if so we should have GS back early in the new year. In the mean time, I could host arvis for you or Sher might be able to host it on the server that hosts LM. Just until GS gets back.
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Sher had the idea of useing lm for it. But the 5121 port is prolly closed + the ftp doesn't allow .exe files. I'll keep arivs up a bit longer. But things like tvt may not get finished, testing it and so will take too much time. Maybe gs will have that too anyway. Thing that bothers me is that I didn't hear anything of talon for weeks. And I'm getting too much players. If it keeps going up like it goes now the server will be filled up most of the time.
-Mel
well there s no rush for tournament. yes , i know ur not doing tvt only for that but just to let u know...
and another thing: were gonna have to split dates for tourney . to let everything go smooth only 4 teams should be allowed at same time. so its def gonna need to be password pprotected.
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If gs is up by the time you plan it you have the whole server only for the tournie. Lagless fights you can do then, if the clients allow it you can do 5 vs 5 or more. But you need some good client machines or almost no cleric/mages then :P Just too keep an acceptable fps.
-Mel
too bad u cant get a link between 2 servers
so the people who must wait could wait in gs and could be summoned to arivs when needed :P
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Actualy that can and I did talk to talon month's ago about something like it. Back then I wanted to let them join the gs server and then porting them to arivs for the war. That way I wouldn't have to write a filter. But now I have one anyway.
A dm can just create a server portal in gs now that there's a filter on arivs. I'll prolly add a permanent serverportal in arivs to gs when it's up again.
But well, we'll see abiut that when gs is back.
-Mel
you know if gs is up then there are 2 servers where the tourney could be helld, a lot of matches could be played without lag.
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Well that's the idea of arivs. The whole server just for your war, so you won't have lag.
Only the clients will limit you and I can't go over 10 vs 10 :P
-Mel
hmmm in about a week i shall open a new toppic where u only have to put the name of the group that will participate. notting more. that toppic will stay open for a week and then the saturday that follows tournament will begin. Exact time will follow then.
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ehm wich week mort?? when you gonna start the topic??
well when mel has made the advancements in the tvt. dont wanto stress her so cant give u a date yet
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If the scripts aren't ready in time (I'm not scripting for nwn now I'm fixing the server), it still can be done if dm's make sure it runs fine. It's ok if you give a date, I don't have stress at all :P
Want to add that I have a other server configured if needed, but it's also my client machine so in case you need a dm someone else will have to do it.
-Mel
well let me sleep a day over it:p
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Just don't bother about the scripts, that will be ok.
-Mel