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Neverwinter (2013)
« on: March 11, 2013, 06:13:58 PM »
I dont know if it has any kind of nda or anything so feel free to delete it if it violates any rules.

Well I dont know if any of you guys still follow this game but just to let you know a friend of mine got the chance to try the game during the last weekend and I watched him play for a while with the skype screen sharing option, cant talk about the graphics as he had all the options in min so it would go smooth with the screen sharing, but I feel really sorry to say that even if its still in beta,  the game is a HUGE disappointment

Feels like a cheap champions online but without the costume generation and no travel powers which was pretty much the best part of the game ( and of course its made by the same guys), also you get a crosshair but like in champions you can only attack if you have a mob in the crosshair or its an aoe.

The foundry thingie is just extra dungeons nothing to do with mods like nwn used to have

For the part I saw of Neverwinter only has the name ( maybe storyline?)

Though I'll still most likely try it some more once its released, so far it just feels like a ramdom action mmo with just a known name, even though the trailers make the game look really cool and all, once inside the game it felt like a complete different story...

Theres still more stuff but I'll just stop here for now :o

Now Im sad :(
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 06:20:37 PM by Tyrael »

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 11:24:09 PM »
I read a small article about it today actually.  I guess it will be wait and see.  But, seeing as it's free to play, there will be no harm in trying it.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 09:04:54 AM »
Rules? What rules? :D

Wait... you actually thought this would be good?
 *Always* expect the worst from these things, it normally is, but if it isn't then you get a pleasant surprise out of it. But... I guess this mentality is expected from someone who typically despises MMORPG's.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 10:45:22 AM »
Yeah, I had pretty low expectations too. I'll give it a try though. Could have a good single player storyline if nothing else.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 11:05:45 PM »
If anyone wants to try it out, theyre giving out beta keys for the weekend here
 http://www.mmobomb.com/giveaway/neverwinter-beta-keys-3
Around 6000 left as of now.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2013, 10:54:18 PM »
I'm surprised no more talk about this.

...but it is pretty fun.

Oh and you don't need to spend any RL Money on it.

Zen can be earned by selling Astral Diamonds, which you refine from Rough ADs (1:1 ratio)...which you get from Daily Quests or from the Profession System.
-Just takes longer.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 10:43:36 AM »
I'm surprised no more talk about this.

...but it is pretty fun.

Oh and you don't need to spend any RL Money on it.

Zen can be earned by selling Astral Diamonds, which you refine from Rough ADs (1:1 ratio)...which you get from Daily Quests or from the Profession System.
-Just takes longer.

I think it's in Beta now? I'll likely try the game when it's released.  Though I want to play a Drow and I hear they will only be available 60 days later.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 01:55:40 PM »
It's in Open Beta. Normally you'd say "so?".

Apparently, Cryptic will not be wiping any characters from the Open Beta. :D


I would expect the Drow and some of the other notable races/sub-races (ie half-[race]) will likely be locked and require a separate purchase.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 03:58:51 PM »
It's in Open Beta. Normally you'd say "so?".

Apparently, Cryptic will not be wiping any characters from the Open Beta. :D


I would expect the Drow and some of the other notable races/sub-races (ie half-[race]) will likely be locked and require a separate purchase.

Hmm I wouldn't mind paying if the game is good...but I think I heard that the premium purchase is along the lines of $200 or something???

Hmm seems like there's a premium Drow class that is part of the $200 Founders pack, but regular Drow race should be available for free. 

Alright I'll check it out very soon....Still playing Mass Effect 3...just finished the 2 big DLCs for it. 420 mentioned the last one was really good and YES it was lots of fun :)
« Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 04:04:27 PM by Mo »

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 04:20:34 PM »
For $200 you get 2-million Astral Diamonds....which are pretty much used for everything revolving around the Player.


-Auction House currency
-"Rushing" profession jobs (some take 2-days to finish) or Companion training (can be up to 2hrs [so far] to train)
-Purchasing 'Quick Gear' (just rares. Not Epics)
-Purchasing Zen (if you don't want to use real money)


But it's pretty easy to get ADs...you just have to resist the temptation to "Finish Now" :P


*Special Note: That 2million AD is per account. And is only transferable to one character. But all the profession creations appear to be 'Bind on Equip'. And since every character and 'learn' every profession. You just need those diamonds on your main.

You also get:
-A mount that would normally cost you 2 gold.
-Adventuring Pack, which contains the much desired Identification Scrolls
-A weapon that'll last you easily into mid-20s (means all those weapon drops can be vendored/AH-ed)
-A companion that tears through the enemy

I feel that for $200. I spent money that I had and saved myself the hassle of 'grinding' to auction items for ADs (to buy ID Scrolls; they don't drop fast enough) and for gold.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2013, 03:28:13 PM »
What server are you on?

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2013, 04:30:45 PM »
What server are you on?

Mindflayer.

Supposedly they'll be combining all the open beta servers into one...like with STO.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2013, 04:36:18 PM »
I need to download the client but not when I'm playing Diablo 3. Maybe I'll start the download tonight before i go to bed.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2013, 06:35:53 PM »
It's about 4GB on disk.

So it shouldn't take long to download...I have to hand it to Cryptic for knowing how to pack the shit out of their games and the updates. Usually a 500MB update only downloads about 200MB of data.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2013, 12:38:58 PM »
Mindflayer.

Supposedly they'll be combining all the open beta servers into one...like with STO.
I'm on Mindflayer too. Names, Joe Fixit. You may remember the tubby purple half-orc from GodSpire. Well, he's back in Neverwinter baby!

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 05:46:13 PM »
And hopefully this time he won't spam kill me for lulz.


All I remember was "Hey, Khad, watch this." Then hellfire rained down upon me.......

EDIT: For those who may like a bit of a head-start:
http://orcz.com/Neverwinter:_Promo_Keys

« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 08:50:49 PM by Illutian »
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 10:39:48 PM »
And hopefully this time he won't spam kill me for lulz.


All I remember was "Hey, Khad, watch this." Then hellfire rained down upon me.......

EDIT: For those who may like a bit of a head-start:
http://orcz.com/Neverwinter:_Promo_Keys
I think you remember wrong.

Anyway, how do I add people to my friends list. The input requests something like "name@domain" (or something equally ambiguous).

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 11:27:11 PM »
charactername@accountname

I think you can just use the Account Name.

I believe mine would be: Illutian@Ivon

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2013, 10:58:45 PM »
Me: Joe Fixit@CEP420
Throbblefoot: Ragnelle@tfootspectre

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2013, 06:58:43 AM »
:O

Throbby's gonna play too?

\o/ -YAY!

Like, omi-gawd, it's a reunion!

But seriously, the game is fun. I like the little things like traps being marked in that red column circle like in the NWN version of D&D.

I do warn. The AI, especially for companions, is....stupid. Sometimes the ranged units will glitch and decide to stay with in melee range off the enemy mobs you're attacking. This ends poorly for them.

Currently the max rank for companions is 15 unless you buy the rare (rank 25) or epic (rank 30). They do have 'Training Tomes' in game but they aren't purchasable (presumably with Astral Diamonds); tagged as "Coming Soon".

This struck many as a money grab to force high-leveled players to buy the Zen companions, but at this time there's only two healers. The rank 15 Cleric and the Rank 30 Angel....which requires 360 Ardent coins. That you get once per day for Invoking......so ya... 360 days later you'll have enough coins to buy the only Epic Healer :P


None of that should be a problem even if you two don't run a Tank/Healer combo.

Pro-tip 1: Any items you get from Promos are tagged as "Bound to Character" and will not stack with the same items dropped in game. I recommend using the Bound versions first as you only get small stacks of around 5 or 10.

Pro-tip 2: Leadership profession is the best profession to level first. Most of the tasks it offers reward XP, Coin, and Astral Diamonds

Pro-tip 3: Invoke every time you can. The first time awards AD, Ardent & Celestal Coins, XP, Random 30min boon, and sometimes a few consumables. After that you get XP, AD, Boon, and maybe and item for the next ~3 invokes. Then you just get a random boon. You can invoke at campfires too.

Pro-tip 4: Stock up on the kits (I run 50 each type). Also remember what Skill you have in the Powers tab. If you have 'Dungeoneering' you won't need the Dungeon Kits. I don't what the other skills are, but I assume Rogues would get the skill to replace the Thief Kits, Clerics would get one to replace Religions Kits, and Wizards would get one to replace the Arcane Kit.

Pro-tip 5: If you think a hidden area might have treasure...it probably does; go explore :P


Special Note 1: 'Threat' is kind of wonky. So don't worry if you pull aggro. Every class has abilities to avoid damage; straight up dodges/blocks, or CC abilities.
Special Note 2: "Dailies" seem to reset at 3am EST (12am PST). So make sure you get them done...or else even though the counter will say you've completed, say, 3 runs of this particular skirmish your internal counter will actually be reset. -kind of annoying when you're 2/3 :P
« Last Edit: May 16, 2013, 08:12:33 AM by Illutian »
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2013, 09:50:35 AM »
Calia is in the game also.  She's got chars on Dragon and Mindflayer.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2013, 10:31:58 AM »
How do I invoke?

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2013, 01:09:45 PM »
How do I invoke?

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You unlock it at...level 10 (or it might be 11), if you didn't move the default UI it's the UI Element to the left of the Zone Name (above the minimap).


Calia is in the game also.  She's got chars on Dragon and Mindflayer.

Calia...wasn't that person a young lady who played a very mean halfling (kick-boxing) monk? :P
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2013, 09:38:41 AM »
And...the first Bullshit Move is:

http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=891431

Posted at 3:30am EST. Nice of them to account for the majority of the USA to be asleep.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2013, 10:29:00 AM »
And...the first Bullshit Move is:

http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=891431

Posted at 3:30am EST. Nice of them to account for the majority of the USA to be asleep.
Hilarious. Did they actually think that would work? I'm sure there is one guy in Korea with 100 accounts who got it all.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2013, 10:59:32 AM »
According to forum post: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?253032-Noble-Key-giveaway

All keys appeared to be used with in 5min of the News post.

Seeing as the codes were placed inside images to prevent Text Mining. It's pretty clear that a lot of people watch for these codes. Probably putting them on accounts to sell later*.

*I think a WoW account with Scarab Lord title went for ~$10,000 USD on an eBay-like site.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2013, 11:17:54 AM »
And...the first Bullshit Move is:

http://nw.perfectworld.com/news/?p=891431

Posted at 3:30am EST. Nice of them to account for the majority of the USA to be asleep.
XD

I expect more good times to come!

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2013, 01:32:41 PM »
FYI: As of today there may be a rollback or, worse case, character wipe.

Apparently there was an exploit that allowed people to post using Neverwinter Gateway auction items for negative Astral Diamond. This would do something...not sure what. But the end result is people were 'printing' Astral Diamonds.

So...420 and Throbble, you two may not have characters when you next login. As you started about the time it [exploit] was ramping up into full gear.
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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2013, 06:39:36 PM »
Oh there's an Auction House in this game?  lol

Diablo 3 didn't teach anyone anything...All these companies need better QA.

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Re: Neverwinter (2013)
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2013, 07:16:38 PM »
Oh there's an Auction House in this game?  lol

Diablo 3 didn't teach anyone anything...All these companies need better QA.

Actually, was the other-way around. A Blizzard Dev saw the D2 crowd, the AH of WoW, saw the RMT of the "Asian games"...then saw Paypal. And was like, "Y we not combine them?". And the Board was like "Brilliant!".


As for better QA? Try better Marketing Departments....MDs that stay the fuck out of the game's development time table.

This is why I'm really happy to see these crowd-founded games like Star Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar, and Divinity: Original Sin. We, the gamers, are Marketing. We know it takes time to make the game. And we don't want a rushed POS product.
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