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South Park vs. Revolution Muslim
Mo:
I'm talking about this scenario. I've already explained how it's selfish and 420 even agreed. It's not rocket science. My point is both of these sides are wrong. Yes I agree that killing people because they offended you is worse but that's besides the point.
Meclar:
I don't think South Parks only goal is to offend people and I do like their cleverness but I'm not sure that it's possible to include everyone in their jokes (despite claiming that they do) which leads me to think that they could prove their point by not including anyone. The only censorship I like is creative/artistic restraint which I think of as a kind of censorship.
Does anyone know of any controversy over the Jewish custom of not printing G-d?
420:
--- Quote from: Mo on May 02, 2010, 11:35:17 AM ---I'm talking about this scenario. I've already explained how it's selfish and 420 even agreed. It's not rocket science. My point is both of these sides are wrong. Yes I agree that killing people because they offended you is worse but that's besides the point.
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Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this issue because I can't accept calling an act of freedom of speech "wrong" for any reason, and I don't think I can sway your point of view either.
I'm also not clear on how you can justify killing people by saying it's "besides the point". I agreed that the act may have been selfish but I also pointed out that religious extremists issuing death threats is in no way equivocal to an offensive cartoon. You just can't compare the two, one is in bad taste the other is illegal, not to mention immoral.
--- Quote from: Meclar on May 02, 2010, 04:31:10 PM ---I don't think South Parks only goal is to offend people and I do like their cleverness but I'm not sure that it's possible to include everyone in their jokes (despite claiming that they do) which leads me to think that they could prove their point by not including anyone. The only censorship I like is creative/artistic restraint which I think of as a kind of censorship.
Does anyone know of any controversy over the Jewish custom of not printing G-d?
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I haven't heard that one. I know they use the term "Yahweh", which is God's name, in the Hebrew Bible.
Maybe it's related to this snippet I found on Wikipedia:
--- Quote ---This form is a modern scholarly convention: Hebrew scripts write it as four consonants, rendered in Roman letters as YHWH.
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Looks like it's just an issue of not using vowels.
-420
Meclar:
Do you think freedom of speech can be exercised frivolously?
Mo:
--- Quote from: 420 on May 02, 2010, 09:15:45 PM ---Looks like it's just an issue of not using vowels.
-420
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No. You're just not allowed to write God's name down. That's where the G-d comes from. You should typically replace it by 'The Lord', or in Hebrew 'The Name'. God's name is only written down in the Hebrew Bible but as 420 pointed out, it's quite impossible to pronounce as it's missing any vowels. It's called the Tetragrammaton. It's also missing vowels in Hebrew. People normally will pronounce it as Jehovah or Yahweh.
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