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South Park vs. Revolution Muslim
Mo:
--- Quote from: 420 on May 01, 2010, 02:22:50 PM ---I disagree, the backwards thinking happens when people think their personal beliefs should be forced on others. It's the nature of religion that anyone not of that religion is a blasphemer, effectively disrespecting that faith. This makes religion one of the oldest, most powerful forms of oppression.
-420
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I agree but both are backwards and selfish.
Soul Sojourner:
--- Quote from: Mo on May 01, 2010, 01:38:09 PM ---Backwards and selfish thinking.
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How is it selfish? You may be disregarding the spiritual welfare of other people, but offending someone's beliefs isn't an act of self-concern.
Both disregard of others and self-concern are required of selfishness.
Mo:
--- Quote from: Soul Sojourner on May 01, 2010, 06:35:09 PM ---How is it selfish? You may be disregarding the spiritual welfare of other people, but offending someone's beliefs isn't an act of self-concern.
Both disregard of others and self-concern are required of selfishness.
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geez. You're offending someone because it's obviously making you feel good. Otherwise you wouldn't bother. sigh
420:
--- Quote from: Mo on May 01, 2010, 02:52:38 PM ---I agree but both are backwards and selfish.
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South Park hasn't been able to offend me so far and I have a personal faith that isn't associated with any organized religion so it's hard for me to see the other points of view.
However, the adjectives I'd use to describe what South Park does would be: Intentionally offensive, insensitive, critical, satirical, irreverent, juvenile, and yes, even selfish. But I have also found the show enlightening (revealing some of the more insane facts about Scientology), entertaining and, at times, even clever.
But, regarding religious extremists, like Revolution Muslim, I would describe them as, backwards, hypocritical, wrong, evil, dangerous, and nihilistic. There are no positive adjectives with which to describe them other than possibly "cautionary tale".
The difference between the two is that what South Park does is on a completely different level than what the religious fanatics who sling death threats around are doing. It's like comparing apples and oranges. It's like saying that the kid who ate the stink beetle at recess to gross out his classmates is as bad as the man who yells "fire" in a crowded theater just to cause a stampede.
-420
Soul Sojourner:
--- Quote from: Mo on May 01, 2010, 09:33:00 PM ---geez. You're offending someone because it's obviously making you feel good. Otherwise you wouldn't bother. sigh
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You could be a Christian and air a religious show about your faith which would in turn offend various people of other faiths that believe their religion is right and yours is wrong. It would still disregard the religions of others.
But whether on purpose or otherwise, it doesn't matter, because offending someone purposely to make yourself feel better is just one scenario you came up with, but you didn't mention anything that suggests the correctness of that scenario. It may be the case in some scenario's, but not all of them.
Of course, if you have another explanation for it I'm all ears, but as of right now I don't see how it's selfish. Can you clear that up?
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