Author Topic: clan tournament (Read 40536 times)

Blood Angel · « **Reply #60 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:17:01 AM »

make a cleric monk, 70% miss chance for missile attacks and deflect arrows, pretty nice. ofcourse if 2 archers are attacking 1 person then you only have one more to fight off two other players, which means while one team has 2v1 the other has the same lol. I don't think two archers would be able to do much against a dual hider team, way easier to take ppl with those sneaks, so you might have to consider that.

James_2k · « **Reply #61 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:24:17 AM »

well against hiders, the archers should have spot. with someone in the rear with the gear (cleric or somesuch)

Blood Angel · « **Reply #62 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:33:37 AM »

well AAs have like 115-117 spot, hiders always have 120 or more. Ofcourse a cleric spotter/supporter is always good in the back, but it doesn't help the AAs spot ability.

James_2k · « **Reply #63 on:** December 30, 2004, 08:38:50 AM »

maybe a bard then, that would boost the skills..

Tea-cup · « **Reply #64 on:** December 30, 2004, 08:50:49 AM »

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well AAs have like 115-117 spot, hiders always have 120 or more. Ofcourse a cleric spotter/supporter is always good in the back, but it doesn't help the AAs spot ability.
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115-117 + 1d20 = 116-137
Other words, you see them most of the time. Make spot chars elf and you're safe.

Btw '70% miss chance for missile attacks'? How you want to do that? Conseal doesn't stack.

-Mel

Blood Angel · « **Reply #65 on:** December 30, 2004, 08:56:33 AM »

imp invis + entropic shield + deflect arrows, and archer can't touch you with that.

Tea-cup · « **Reply #66 on:** December 30, 2004, 09:02:21 AM »

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imp invis+ entropic shield = 50% conseal doesn't stack.
It's like eb and imp invis would stack for 100% conseal

-Mel

Blood Angel · « **Reply #67 on:** December 30, 2004, 09:09:55 AM »

entropic shield isn't conceal, it's 20% miss chance from missile attacks

Maxou · « **Reply #68 on:** December 30, 2004, 10:04:31 AM »

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I thought that was 25 % damn

There will be an overuse on sd monk cleric on that tournament I feel it ... More cleric than mage that's clear .

I thought I posted something about heal and resurrection but I can't see it .
So let's repeat

>> My opinion is heal and resurrection forbidden . You can easily create an effective team with the 3 member part cleric . That means ton of heal and resurrection . That would kill the game

James_2k · « **Reply #69 on:** December 30, 2004, 10:21:03 AM »

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Meh, there will be dispellers to take care of two of those at least..

Tea-cup · « **Reply #70 on:** December 30, 2004, 10:58:22 AM »

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I thought that was 25 % damn
There will be an overuse on sd monk cleric on that tournament I feel it ... More cleric than mage that's clear .

I thought I posted something about heal and resurrection but I can't see it .
So let's repeat >> My opinion is heal and resurrection forbidden . You can easily create an effective team with the 3 member part cleric . That means ton of heal and resurrection . That would kill the game
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3 clerics are so death agianst 3 mages or 3 aa's. Don't take aa's too easy in tvt. If they all 3 target 1, then 2 aa's get the opponent flat. Crits and much damage you get then. Even a combo of a 56 str deva critter + a high kd wmmaster and a bard to lower skill and ac on the opponents will finish those sd/monk/clerics in no time.

Just take a 80 ab wm that use kd on a opponent that has -11 ac -to his disipline and saves. If a deva critter whit 51 dc hits that a few times you're almost sure of a instant kill. Even the damage dealt will do it. And when it's kd you will hit and crit a lot.

A pm would be very usefull in that case

Anyway, some spells will be limited in use, including rez and sov's. Some in the number of targets it affect, like hellball and horn. Also I won't let hellball work a second time if you were raised. It's really a lot to script in fact, if it want's to be wellmade, and testing it will be a pain.

-Mel

Tea-cup · « **Reply #71 on:** December 30, 2004, 11:15:32 AM »

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If 2 aa's whit 85 ab target 1 monk whit 100 ac, 50 conseal and deflect arrows. That monk will be death. Any second opponent that targets you has you flat, the second aa is like a 85 ab hider that would be hidden and hitting all the time.

The team that wins proly will be the one that did work the best together. The skill/build of each player won't matter that much, as long the team is well made.

-Mel

Mo · « **Reply #72 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:51:21 PM »

You're not flat footed by a second attacker. You're flanked...there is a difference

Maxou · « **Reply #73 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:02:16 PM »

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Can you tell the difference for us poor stranger who don't understand what flanked means ?

Tea-cup · « **Reply #74 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:18:50 PM »

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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.

Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.

Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.

-Mel

Blood Angel · « **Reply #75 on:** December 30, 2004, 02:40:48 PM »

flanked means +2 ab for the second attacker.

Tea-cup · « **Reply #76 on:** December 30, 2004, 03:30:12 PM »

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Mm, if it's just +2 I may be wrong about the aa's.

-Mel

Mo · « **Reply #77 on:** December 30, 2004, 03:57:24 PM »

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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.

Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.

Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.

-Mel
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We are sorting out the dedicated server for GS at the moment. Hopefully everything will work out and if so we should have GS back early in the new year. In the mean time, I could host arvis for you or Sher might be able to host it on the server that hosts LM. Just until GS gets back.

Tea-cup · « **Reply #78 on:** December 30, 2004, 04:34:33 PM »

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True, but you are more vurnable. exept the dwarvendefender.

Btw, heared anything of gs Mo? I'm not planning to continue hosting in the weekend if it stays down. I'll have to stop hosting before the holdiays end anyway, and if gs doesn't shows up there isn't a reazon why I should keep this alive.

Hosting is always too much work for me because, I don't have the proper equipment and I don't like half work.

-Mel
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We are sorting out the dedicated server for GS at the moment. Hopefully everything will work out and if so we should have GS back early in the new year. In the mean time, I could host arvis for you or Sher might be able to host it on the server that hosts LM. Just until GS gets back.
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Sher had the idea of useing lm for it. But the 5121 port is prolly closed + the ftp doesn't allow .exe files. I'll keep arivs up a bit longer. But things like tvt may not get finished, testing it and so will take too much time. Maybe gs will have that too anyway. Thing that bothers me is that I didn't hear anything of talon for weeks. And I'm getting too much players. If it keeps going up like it goes now the server will be filled up most of the time.

-Mel

Morticia · « **Reply #79 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:02:12 PM »

well there s no rush for tournament. yes , i know ur not doing tvt only for that but just to let u know...

and another thing: were gonna have to split dates for tourney . to let everything go smooth only 4 teams should be allowed at same time. so its def gonna need to be password pprotected.

Alkti · « **Reply #80 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:20:26 PM »

Well, forget what Gwyd said

, im back and Ante will participate.

Im sure we will find enough players for the Tournament.

Im just optimistic.

Tea-cup · « **Reply #81 on:** December 31, 2004, 04:33:18 AM »

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well there s no rush for tournament. yes , i know ur not doing tvt only for that but just to let u know...

and another thing: were gonna have to split dates for tourney . to let everything go smooth only 4 teams should be allowed at same time. so its def gonna need to be password pprotected.
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If gs is up by the time you plan it you have the whole server only for the tournie. Lagless fights you can do then, if the clients allow it you can do 5 vs 5 or more. But you need some good client machines or almost no cleric/mages then

Just too keep an acceptable fps.

-Mel

Blood Angel · « **Reply #82 on:** December 31, 2004, 10:17:34 AM »

you know if gs is up then there are 2 servers where the tourney could be helld, a lot of matches could be played without lag.

Morticia · « **Reply #83 on:** December 31, 2004, 02:43:11 PM »

too bad u cant get a link between 2 servers
so the people who must wait could wait in gs and could be summoned to arivs when needed

Tea-cup · « **Reply #84 on:** December 31, 2004, 02:52:32 PM »

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too bad u cant get a link between 2 servers
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Actualy that can and I did talk to talon month's ago about something like it. Back then I wanted to let them join the gs server and then porting them to arivs for the war. That way I wouldn't have to write a filter. But now I have one anyway.

A dm can just create a server portal in gs now that there's a filter on arivs. I'll prolly add a permanent serverportal in arivs to gs when it's up again.

But well, we'll see abiut that when gs is back.

-Mel

Tea-cup · « **Reply #85 on:** December 31, 2004, 02:54:06 PM »

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Well that's the idea of arivs. The whole server just for your war, so you won't have lag.

Only the clients will limit you and I can't go over 10 vs 10

-Mel

Morticia · « **Reply #86 on:** January 01, 2005, 07:21:05 AM »

hmmm in about a week i shall open a new toppic where u only have to put the name of the group that will participate. notting more. that toppic will stay open for a week and then the saturday that follows tournament will begin. Exact time will follow then.

Razor Blade · « **Reply #87 on:** January 05, 2005, 08:48:31 AM »

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hmmm in about a week i shall open a new toppic where u only have to put the name of the group that will participate. notting more. that toppic will stay open for a week and then the saturday that follows tournament will begin. Exact time will follow then.
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ehm wich week mort?? when you gonna start the topic??

Morticia · « **Reply #88 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:13:33 PM »

well when mel has made the advancements in the tvt. dont wanto stress her so cant give u a date yet

Tea-cup · « **Reply #89 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:18:27 PM »

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If the scripts aren't ready in time (I'm not scripting for nwn now I'm fixing the server), it still can be done if dm's make sure it runs fine. It's ok if you give a date, I don't have stress at all

Want to add that I have a other server configured if needed, but it's also my client machine so in case you need a dm someone else will have to do it.

-Mel

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Author Topic: clan tournament (Read 40536 times)